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Rational Logic Means Nothing in the Markets

Posted on by Michael Covel

Greenspan speaks to how irrational markets can be:

Michael, Thanks for making all of your podcasts available to the public. Please keep up the good work. I thought you might find the quote below from Alan Greenspan of interest. It’s from a 10/26/13 interview with the FT entitled “Crash Course”:

“…He [Greenspan] admits that he first saw how irrational finance could become as long ago as the 1950s and 1960s when he briefly tried, as a young New York economist, to trade commodity markets. Back then he thought he could predict cotton values ‘from the outside, looking at supply-demand forces’. But when he actually ‘bought a seat in the market and did a lot of trading’, he discovered that rational logic did not always rule. ‘There were a couple of guys in the exchange who couldn’t tell a hide from copper sheeting but they made a lot of money. Why? They weren’t trading a commodity but human nature…and there is something about human nature which is not rational‘…”

Best,
L.W.

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A Great Example of How Too Much Protection Delivers Chaos — Either for Kids or Markets

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Many think markets can be made safe. They truly believe there is a way to predict tomorrow and thus watch their accounts go straight up over time. Once all of the nasty unsafe stuff is cut, life becomes roses. A great example of the desire for ultimate protection can be seen in the ban of these stamps by the United States Post Office:

“With the Just Move! stamp issuance the U.S. Postal Service hoped to raise awareness about the importance of physical activity in achieving a healthy lifestyle. However, according to Linns Stamp News, the USPS will be destroying the entire press run after receiving concerns from the President’s Council on Fitness, Sports & Nutrition over alleged “unsafe” acts depicted on three of the stamps (cannonball dive, skateboarding without kneepads and a headstand without a helmet). (There’s also a batter without a batting helmet, a girl balancing on a slippery rock, and a soccer player without kneepads or shin pads.)”

Here they are:

Beam me up!

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Government, Markets and Media Propaganda

Posted on by Michael Covel

Feedback from Australia:

G’day Michael, I have recently discovered your podcasts, am awaiting your DVD, have signed up to your e-mailing list and have just brought one of your books. I’ve already had one of those ” ah-ha” moments, whilst listening to a podcast, and can’t wait now to sink my teeth into one of your books. Thought you might find this next bit amusing, we’ve just had the election here in Australia, and have a guess what all the media outlets are blaming for the so called “sharp rise” in the market. Of course you got it right, a change in Government. Gee haven’t heard that one before! Thought you might like the giggle factor in that one. Thanks again for helping me in gaining the momentum to get the education I’ve been looking for. Much appreciated.

Kind Regards,
Guy

Thanks Guy!

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Diversification is Key to Trend Following

Posted on by Michael Covel

Feedback:

Hey Mike, I was thinking about your recent podcast where you talked about how the sharks were posting Bill Dunn’s worst years to demonstrate the failure of trading. It reminded me of the recent articles on John Paulson. You may have read that his gold fund is doing horribly this year. Down 65%. Just like with Bill Dunn, people who don’t understand trading are just salivating over this demonstration of the “failure of trading”. The fund only represents 2% of Paulson’s funds. If this fund operates totally independently of his others funds then I might be inclined to agree with some of the criticism Mike. I can’t understand how any professional trader of Paulson’s caliber could allow his fund to lose 65% of assets. Also, I can’t understand why any professional trader could have looked at a gold chart for the past few years and decide to go long which is the only way that I can imagine that he could be down 65%. If he does incorporate counter trending strategies and was long then I don’t understand why his stops didn’t prevent such a massive loss. On the other hand Mike, if this fund does not operate totally independent, but operates as part of all of his assets, then my view would be totally different. A 2% investment of total funds under management while a bit high, is not a totally unreasonable amount for a professional to risk on a trade. Furthermore if that is the case, just think about it Mike. A 65% unrealized loss on a particular trade means you’re still in the trade. We are actually willing to risk 100% of the 1% or so that we risk on each trade. I don’t think some people realize that. If you have $100,000 trading account and you risk $1000, 65% down in that trade means you are still in the trade. The trade doesn’t end until you either get stopped at a 100% loss of the $1,000 or you take profits of 2:1 or 3:1 on that trade. Some people don’t seem to realize that about trading.

Confusion here.

65% loss on one market is not trend following! Where is the cutting of loss? Dunn’s drawdown was from taking many small losses across many markets. They add up. No one drop on one market. Plus there really can’t be a trend following fund on one market alone. That means no diversification and that is a recipe for failure.

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Ep. 103: Playing the Game with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

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Playing the Game with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio
Playing the Game with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Please enjoy my monologue Playing The Game with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio. This episode may also include great outside guests from my archive.

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How I Look At The Markets

Posted on by Michael Covel

The markets are a science. Plain and simple. Some like to look at fundamentals and guess what will happen next. I like to look at the numbers. The facts. The only thing you can trust. Billion dollar hedge fund manager David Harding views the markets similarly:

Our approach to markets is a science. It is an unpublished science, but it is a real one. You would have thick leather-bound volumes of papers on it if there were a willingness to “open the kimono,” as the horrible modern expression has it. The process of trading our system is like repeatedly drawing different colored balls from the statistician’s apocryphal bag. As we draw out a ball it becomes part of the track record, and we put it back in the bag, but there is no guarantee that the balls will come out in the same order in the future.

Trend following is speculation in its purest form–find an edge and exploit it consistently over time. That attitude is critical for any entrepreneurial success. Throw the lottery mentality away. Forget the one hit wonder luck the press propagates to the masses of lemmings. Learn the real way to profit that goes against buy and hold (hope).

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Ep. 76: Jack Schwager Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Posted on by Michael Covel
Jack Schwager
Jack Schwager

My guest today is Jack Schwager, a recognized industry expert in futures and hedge funds and the author of a number of widely acclaimed financial books. Schwager is one of the founders of Fund Seeder, a platform designed to find undiscovered trading talent worldwide and connect unknown successful traders with sources of investment capital. Previously, Schwager was a partner in the Fortune Group (2001-2010), a London-based hedge fund advisory firm.

The topic is his book Market Sense and Nonsense: How the Markets Really Work (and How They Don’t).

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

  • How Schwager was able to make “Market Sense and Nonsense” accessible to both professionals and laymen and touch on some of the subjects contained within: market fallacies and misconceptions
  • The idea of cable news “experts”, and what would happen if you actually followed all of the picks made by people like Jim Cramer and other talking heads
  • Comparing performance streams against each other, and why you have to consider more than just the number
  • Volatility vs. risk
  • If coming to a good risk adjusted return is based more on a scientific approach or personal preference
  • Leveraged ETFs
  • The fear of hedge funds
  • The idea of leverage and why much of “Market Sense and Nonsense” was built around trying to understand it
  • Why fund-to-fund managers putting a large group of trend following traders together in one portfolio might not be a wise move
  • Presidential election and discuss why whoever is selected to be the next president might not make much of a difference in the markets

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