Ep 677: Mark Blyth Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Mark Blyth
Mark Blyth

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Mark Blyth is a political scientist from Scotland and a professor of international political economy at Brown University.

What influenced Mark early on? John Maynard Keynes was his foundation. He also was growing up through the permanent recessions of the 1980’s and learning first hand about pitfalls in the economy. He quickly saw how the macro economy was so much different than the micro and how studying the economy as a whole was more important than just looking at the individual.

Mark called the Donald Trump win for Presidency in June of 2016. Why? Trump was willing to acknowledge there was a problem. He was dramatically different and played to the individual rather than big business. In 2015 Wall Street bonuses were twice the amount of the total wages of people earning minimum wage. Since that 2015 statistic, the inequality has only gotten greater. Trump gave people hope that things can change – that he could change them.

What are some macro steps that can get the U.S. economy heading in the right direction today? Dissolve monopolies and raise corporate taxes creating long-term productivity gains. Because of tax ride-offs a monopolized economy has been created. The government has allowed and engineered large businesses to run America and it’s time to re-arrange the model. Another problem? Americans have become dependent on passive investing and don’t know what to do when volatility happens. They have become blind to risk, due to lack of volatility for the last 10 years. Michael and Mark end on the question: “Can the economy sustain the next 10 years like this?”

In this episode of Trend Following Radio:

  • Trump campaign
  • Raising interest rates
  • Tax cuts
  • Infrastructure
  • General data protection regulation
  • Black swans
  • Passive investing
  • Efficient market hypothesis

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Ep. 676: Markets and Profit with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Do people really buy that many books? Yes!
Do people really buy that many books? Yes!

Michael dives into markets, profit and critics.


It might sound pedantic or perhaps that I am focusing on the extraneous, I am not: A speculator’s ability to receive a price they can count on as fact—is the foundation of markets. Said another way, with no price, humanity is back to cavemen beating each other with clubs. Austrian economist Ludwig von Mises puts price discovery’s value in perspective: “It is the very essence of prices that they are the offshoot of the actions of individuals and groups of individuals acting on their own behalf. The catallactic concept of exchange ratios and prices precludes anything that is the effect of actions of a central authority, of people resorting to violence and threats in the name of society or the state or of an armed pressure group. In declaring that it is not the business of the government to determine prices, we do not step beyond the borders of logical thinking. A government can no more determine prices than a goose can lay hen’s eggs.”

Michael Covel’s Mind Food for Thought: July 15th Edition

Open the Mind!
Open the Mind!

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Ep. 675: Jerry Muller Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Jerry Muller
Jerry Muller

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Jerry Muller is a professor of history at The Catholic University of America, where he has taught since 1984. His latest book is “The Tyranny of Metrics.” Quantifying metrics can be a good thing, however, it can easily go too far and have great consequences.

Jerry sees pitfalls of focusing too much on metrics everywhere – schools, hospitals, even venture capital. Children gear their learning toward beating a test rather than intellectually developing their mind. Doctors fixate on standardized performance measures, rewards and punishment, and publicized accountability. The system encourages and sometimes requires doctors to game the system. Venture capitalism, the very field where creativity should prosper, tends to foster an anti-creative atmosphere. Investors want to see data to back up a new product so they can see proof of a future profit. The problem? New innovations don’t have data because they have never been seen before in the marketplace.

Using metrics in schools, hospitals, and business can be extremely useful depending on what context it is used, but alone they are not enough. Human development as well as human experience should be weaved into the equation. Michael and Jerry finish the podcast up talking metrics in China, how it has lead to gaming the system and taken a toll on developing research.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio:

  • Intrinsic motivation
  • Tyranny of metrics
  • Metric fixation
  • Metrics in law enforcement
  • Metrics in health industry
  • Managerial ideology
  • Powerpoint presentations
  • Metrics in China

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“I find your work fascinating…”

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Hi Michael,

I’ve been listening to your podcast for about a year now. I first heard about you from the Bloomberg Odd Lots Podcast, where you spoke about Turtle Traders. I then started listening to your own podcast and I find your work fascinating!

You conduct brilliant interviews with interesting people from all kinds of backgrounds, but your interviews reveal a lot about their work, without giving it all away, which I appreciate a lot. One definitely needs to follow up and do some more research on your guests after an episode; which I try to do in most cases. I highly enjoy your podcast.

I have 2 requests: First, would it at be possible to have any of the fathers of Behavioral Economics on your show, i.e Kahneman or Thaler (I don’t think you’ve had either of them on your show yet? I may be mistaken.) Second, on your show, you mention that if one wanted to get started with Trend Following, to reach out to you. So, my question is, do you have any suggestions of where to start? Which resources should I be reading, what kind of programs would I need to start trading, and how much money would I need? I recently started my first job, so in some months, I’ll have a bit more disposable income than others. Knowing where to start would be invaluable.

Thanks for your show, I am a big fan.

Kind regards

Email with more details on the way! The fathers of the behavioral school? Go here.

Ep. 674: Trend Following Mega Fifth Edition with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

New Trend Following
New Trend Following

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Michael plays three epic interviews with Ed Seykota, Martin Lueck and Jean-Philippe Bouchaud profiled in chapter’s 12, 13 and 14 of his newest edition of Trend Following: How to Make a Fortune in Bull, Bear and Black Swan Markets.

Ed Seykota was originally profiled in the classic book “The Market Wizards.” Seykota has played a pivotal role in the growth of trend following trading for 40 years.

Martin Lueck holds an M.A. in Physics from Oxford University and currently is the Research Director and President of Aspect Capital. Lueck was originally with Adam, Harding and Lueck Limited (AHL), which he co-founded with Michael Adam and David Harding.

Jean-Philippe Bouchaud is founder and Chairman of Capital Fund Management (CFM) and professor of physics at École polytechnique.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio:

  • Govopoly
  • Systems trading
  • Diversification
  • Behavioral economics
  • Death of trend following
  • Exploiting vs. exploring
  • Behavioral biases
  • Risk

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Ep. 673: Christopher Ryan Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Christopher Ryan
Christopher Ryan

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Christopher Ryan is best known for co-authoring “Sex at Dawn.” The book deals with the evolution of monogamy in humans and human mating systems. In opposition to what the authors see as the “standard narrative” of human sexual evolution, they contend that having multiple sexual partners was common and accepted in the environment of evolutionary adaptedness.

What was the start of Christopher going doing his path? One of the more pivotal moments was when he was an undergraduate in college. He was able to skip his junior year of college and subsequently hitchhiked to Alaska. Before that journey to Alaska, he thought the world was a dangerous place. Once he got outside his bubble and met strangers, he learned how kind and generous people were. It shifted the way he thought about life and the world.

After graduating he spent his 20’s and 30’s backpacking through Asia and South America. His a-ha moment was realizing that most of what he was told about the world was bullshit. Governments have an agenda and prop up their society to make other places seem less superior. Christopher quickly saw that the cultural message telling us that it’s a “dog eat dog world” was not true.

There are different attributes that everyone shares. What is universal? What do we all share? Consciousness, sexuality, comedy, etc. these are all things that translate across cultures and continents. Learning about these things is what excites Christopher and why he continues to learn, study and teach.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio:

  • Monogamy
  • Hunter and gatherer society
  • Agricultural revolution
  • Culture of women sexuality
  • Sexual transmitted disease
  • War on masturbation
  • Social groups

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