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Hi Michael, since I started trading the system with real money, I’ve had a more difficult time getting traction. However, this is because I started at the beginning of March when leadership rotation kicked in big time and the main US equity indices basically stopped trending. Are you seeing others having a similar experience over the last 8 or so weeks?

Peter

Two months is two months. Just a blip on the screen relatively speaking for trend following. You have examined typical trend following records in my books, for example?

Big picture is big picture. Small picture is small picture.


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Your Neighbor Might Not Be Your Best Gauge

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Mike, I’m very happy to correspond with you. I have read 80% of all trades are losers. Do you have statical data regarding the success of traders after having taken [your training and applying your systems]? Thank you, Terry

Thanks for the question.

I can teach clients, but I can’t force anyone to disclose anything or track their brokerage accounts. Frankly, I don’t want to force anyone to do anything. You can read success stories from our products here, but ultimately this comes down to a client sticking with a trend trading system.


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17% Per Year?

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Hey Mike, I’ve been wondering something about the returns of trend followers throughout the decades and I would like to hear your opinion. I believe I once heard you say that the average trend follower according to the data available indicates an average return of about 17% annually (Correct me if I’m wrong). However, I can’t help but think of the incredible returns of hundreds to thousands of percent that Jesse Livermore and others in day like Bernard Baruch (don’t know if he was a trend follower) was able to achieve. If I remember correctly, at one point, Livermore was doubling his money almost weekly. What do you think is the reason for such astronomical returns? I think there was more to it than just the 10 to 1 stock leverage of their era. Do you think it was because of Livermore’s poor money management? He did have a tendency to bet to entirely too much on his trades. Perhaps it was the combination of betting too much plus the 10:1 stock leverage. What do you think?

There is not some one set return number for Trend Following (i.e. 17%). Those old guys? You have their audited returns?


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Diversification is Key to Trend Following

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Hey Mike, I was thinking about your recent podcast where you talked about how the sharks were posting Bill Dunn’s worst years to demonstrate the failure of trading. It reminded me of the recent articles on John Paulson. You may have read that his gold fund is doing horribly this year. Down 65%. Just like with Bill Dunn, people who don’t understand trading are just salivating over this demonstration of the “failure of trading”. The fund only represents 2% of Paulson’s funds. If this fund operates totally independently of his others funds then I might be inclined to agree with some of the criticism Mike. I can’t understand how any professional trader of Paulson’s caliber could allow his fund to lose 65% of assets. Also, I can’t understand why any professional trader could have looked at a gold chart for the past few years and decide to go long which is the only way that I can imagine that he could be down 65%. If he does incorporate counter trending strategies and was long then I don’t understand why his stops didn’t prevent such a massive loss. On the other hand Mike, if this fund does not operate totally independent, but operates as part of all of his assets, then my view would be totally different. A 2% investment of total funds under management while a bit high, is not a totally unreasonable amount for a professional to risk on a trade. Furthermore if that is the case, just think about it Mike. A 65% unrealized loss on a particular trade means you’re still in the trade. We are actually willing to risk 100% of the 1% or so that we risk on each trade. I don’t think some people realize that. If you have $100,000 trading account and you risk $1000, 65% down in that trade means you are still in the trade. The trade doesn’t end until you either get stopped at a 100% loss of the $1,000 or you take profits of 2:1 or 3:1 on that trade. Some people don’t seem to realize that about trading.

Confusion here.

65% loss on one market is not trend following! Where is the cutting of loss? Dunn’s drawdown was from taking many small losses across many markets. They add up. No one drop on one market. Plus there really can’t be a trend following fund on one market alone. That means no diversification and that is a recipe for failure.


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Two Simple Guildelines to Follow When Trading For Others

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Hey Michael, I’ve finally gotten to the point of developing programming models that show high rates of return over time using EMA crossover systems, I’m curious what advice you have going forward in terms of potentially getting into the industry professionally.

Make money.

And find clients who like what you do. Anything more than that is inefficient.


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No “Calls” Here and No Apologies

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Can you please send me a list of all the historical trade recommendations you have made in the last 3 years? I am thinking of subscribing and would like to see your results. Thanks, Gary

I am not in the business of giving trade recommendations. My services are clear.


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Talking Loud and Saying Nothing

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I am an avid listener of you podcast, I have read and seen much of your material and I have to say enjoy your controversial approach. I find it hilarious how you poke fun at the technical charting ‘fan base’, but like the many I have to say I would disagree that trend following is the only proven way. In short, I think we both agree risk management is the key to longevity whatever style you adopt, from many of the legends have been quoted that the style of trading is not the issue but finding a system which suits your personalty is critical. As 90 percent of any trade is psychological any system in the wrong hands is doomed to fail if executed emotionally even trend following. There are many famous technical traders all of which would have there profit and loss available to see from the same resources you produced when showing all the successful trend followers. I don’t think your argument towards the technicals is valid, but l do agree that trend following works and is a great trading strategy, l just think its a little naive to think its the only one. Keep up the good work, I really like your material.
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James

Where is the data for the predictive technical analysis traders? Send me the decades of performance data. James Brown, and I say this with a smile, saw it:


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