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Ep. 27: Scott Patterson Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Scott Patterson
Scott Patterson

My guest today is Scott Patterson, an American financial journalist and bestselling author. Patterson has made a career of reporting the subterranean inner-workings of the markets, writing for the Wall Street Journal, Rolling Stone, and Mother Earth News. His first book, The Quants: How a New Breed of Math Whizzes Conquered Wall Street and Nearly Destroyed It, was released in 2010.

The topic is his book Dark Pools: High-Speed Traders, A.I. Bandits, and the Threat to the Global Financial System.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

  • Trace the history of high speed trading and electronic communication networks (ECNs) back to Josh Levine, who founded Island, the computer system that led to the high frequency trading we see today
  • Technological revolution behind Island, and how its transparency led to dark pools – opaque markets where bids and offers are not made public
  • Patterson goes on to propose that the entire market has gone dark
  • The relation of dark pools to the flash crash
  • The regulation of dark pools
  • How the real New York Stock Exchange is in a data center in the countryside of New Jersey

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Geneva Trend Following Insights: Still Ignored

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Hello Michael, Warm greetings here from Switzerland! I thought I would give you some feedback from a conference I attended last week in Geneva: The Opal European Wealth and Family Office Conference. It reminded me again of how much work we need to do to spread the logic of basic trend following amongst this group. The three-day conference was very much focused on issues of feeling, judgements and nothing short of predictions about asset classes, which countries they should be investing in and the general direction of the market. It is genuinely frustrating to find that trend following is still confined to and seen as a specialized CTA strategy, one of many others. Thankfully, there was a short section (discussed in a separate boardroom) about CTAs and their role in a portfolio, and it would appear that there was a greater deal of acceptance of trend following amongst this group. I also cannot help but feel that even though we are all in the same industry, actual fund managers and those who allocate assets (and therefore judge and analyze us) are in fact very far removed from one another. Michael, we are in the process of building our business and diversifying beyond our own single strategy fund. We have planned for some time to create a fund-of-fund of esteemed peers: the qualification simply being systematic trend followers who we respect from both a quantitative and qualitative point of view. As you know, there are some fancy software and websites which allow you to do quantitative analysis on these. However, we kindly want to ask your opinion and suggestions on the handful of funds here in Europe and the UK which you in your experience find to fit well with your idea of systematic trend followers (regardless of trading instruments, asset class or such variables such as AUM). Of course, there are people like [name] and the like, but preferably ones that are not as well-known as the more famous ones. We will treat your suggestions with confidence and will not hold you responsible for your suggestions; they will simply provide an interesting angle from which to begin our analysis, from somebody whose opinion we hold in high regard. Thank you so much and all the best to you Michael. PS: Thank you for the many updates on both your blog and Facebook. Sometimes you are the only reason for going onto Facebook!

Thanks for the insights and feedback!

I am an open book, however. My experience with assorted managers (by name) is across my websites, 4 books, film and podcast episodes.

It’s all transparent.


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Trend Following Little League Team

My first year Little League sponsorship emblazoned TurtleTrader on the uniform, but now a slight shift to be even more trend following inclusive:

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Ep. 1: Mike Dever Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Michael Dever
Michael Dever

My guest today is Mike Dever, an American businessman, futures trader, entrepreneur, and author. Dever is the founder and CEO of Brandywine Asset Management, Inc., an investment management firm founded in 1982.

The topic is Trend Following.

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Michael Covel Active Trader Article

My January 2012 article in Active Trader: Trend-following winners are not “lucky monkeys”.


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Philosophical Matrix: Trend Commandments

D. Buxman writes about Trend Commandments:

“What was missing for me was a philosophical matrix within which I could construct more meaningful rules upon which I could base my personal Trend Following system.”

I like that descriptor–philosophical matrix.


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Removing ‘Junk’ from People’s Brains? Check!

From an associate in the trend following world:

“Michael, Great to see you at the MFA panel in Chicago and congratulations on Trend Commandments. I’ve been working through it and really impressed with how you continue to make trend following more and more accessible to the average individual who, unfortunately, has to be de-educated in order to ‘get it’. Your writing successfully breaks down all the mis-information leaving fertile ground for people to open their minds to new concepts of managing money. Most…may never actually trade for themselves, but I think your book is a great tool to get people thinking in the right direction on many things, including how to manage their portfolios.”

Thanks.

Unrelated, people have been asking about trend following performance in recent queries. All of my books, including Trend Commandments, gives an idea of how trend following pros have fared for decades. Ignore their success at your own peril.

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