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Ep. 143: Doing More With Less with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Doing More With Less with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio
Doing More With Less with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Please enjoy my monologue Doing More With Less with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio. This episode may also include great outside guests from my archive.

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A Very Hippie Way of Thinking About Trend Following


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Where Will All the Jack Come from to Pay All the Government Workers?

A CNBC excerpt:

Detroit, you’re not alone. Across the nation, cities and states are watching Detroit’s largest-ever municipal bankruptcy filing with great trepidation. Years of underfunded retirement promises to public sector workers, which helped lay Detroit low, could plunge them into a similar and terrifying financial hole.

ZIRP pushes stocks up & pension promises to government workers brings ’em down?

Who knows the answer.

But bet on volatility. Bet on trends.


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Embrace the Shake: The Foundation of Trend Following

I tweeted this.

Here is an example of that from The Hedge Fund Journal:

David Harding spent two years at Sabre Fund Management, each day drawing hundreds of charts by hand, like a true craftsman. Every chart was bound into big leather folders, and in turn each chart pattern was copied into other folders. He likens it to an old-fashioned publishing house. Harding noted without irony that the company was run by accountants, and that “there certainly was method in what was done there.” He continues “I certainly regard my time there as the foundation stone of my credentials as an empiricist. There is nothing like drawing thousands of charts by hand to fix them in your mind. In fact I regard this phase of exhausting taxonomy of technical analysis as being like the relationship used to be between biology and taxonomy in the life sciences. Until something like 1830 you had gentlemen scientists collecting leaves and putting them into folders, and it wasn’t until Darwin that he and others started putting some order on it. Only by arranging data and putting it in order can you get any pattern out of it.

Nice.


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John Paulson -65%

Davie Tate III writes:

Hey Mike. Davie Tate here. I was thinking about your recent podcast where you talked about how the sharks were posting Bill Dunn’s worst years to demonstrate the failure of trading. It reminded me of the recent articles on John Paulson. You may have read that his gold fund is doing horribly this year. Down 65%. Just like with Bill Dunn, people who don’t understand trading are just salivating over this demonstration of the “failure of trading”. The fund only represents 2% of Paulson’s funds. If this fund operates totally independently of his others funds then I might be inclined to agree with some of the criticism Mike. I can’t understand how any professional trader of Paulson’s caliber could allow his fund to lose 65% of assets. Also, I can’t understand why any professional trader could have looked at a gold chart for the past few years and decide to go long which is the only way that I can imagine that he could be down 65%. If he does incorporate counter trending strategies and was long then I don’t understand why his stops didn’t prevent such a massive loss. On the other hand Mike, if this fund does not operate totally independent, but operates as part of all of his assets, then my view would be totally different. A 2% investment of total funds under management while a bit high, is not a totally unreasonable amount for a professional to risk on a trade. Furthermore if that is the case, just think about it Mike. A 65% unrealized loss on a particular trade means you’re still in the trade. We are actually willing to risk 100% of the 1% or so that we risk on each trade. I don’t think some people realize that. If you have $100,000 trading account and you risk $1000, 65% down in that trade means you are still in the trade. The trade doesn’t end until you either get stopped at a 100% loss of the $1,000 or you take profits of 2:1 or 3:1 on that trade. Some people don’t seem to realize that about trading.

65% loss in one market is not trend following. Where is the cutting of loss? Maybe his strategy will work, but it’s not loss cutting. Dunn’s DD was from taking many small losses across many markets. Those add up to a DD. No one drop on one market. Plus, there really can’t be a TF fund on one market alone. No diversification.


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The Criminal Mind of Forecasters Is About the “Strings”

From ZeroHedge:

An economic forecast is more like analysis of a criminal mind than evaluation of economic data.

From Alan Moore in his Watchmen:

We’re all puppets, Laurie. I’m just a puppet who can see the strings.

There, the playing field you face in easy synopsis. Now what?


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Ep. 142: Alpesh Patel Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Alpesh Patel
Alpesh Patel

My guest today is Alpesh Patel, a hedge fund manager, Financial Times columnist and Bloomberg TV presenter.

The topic is his book How to Win at Spread Betting: An Analysis of Why Some People Win at Spread Betting and Some Lose.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

  • Comparisons betweens stocks and futures
  • What the winners have in common
  • Trade frequency, and why active traders tended to do better in Patel’s study
  • Buy & holders vs. spread betters
  • Academic vs. practical insights
  • Whether Patel finds himself at odds with other Financial Times writers
  • Why people like to imagine that trend following and momentum trading doesn’t exist
  • Patel’s experience as an expert witness with “trend following on trial”
  • Why the average person has difficulty with betting small, cutting losses, and letting winners ride
  • George Soros, game theory and trading psychology
  • Win/loss ratios
  • A coin flipping experiment performed with Ph.D’s, the importance of position sizing, and why systems aren’t everything
  • Why gut instinct is the opposite of what professional traders use

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