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Ep. 210: Seykota, Harding and the Trend Following Conference with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Seykota, Harding and the Trend Following Conference with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio
Seykota, Harding and the Trend Following Conference with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Michael Covel reflects on the recent guests he’s had since his last monologue, including guests like Ed Seykota. Covel discusses Seykota’s book, “Govopoly”, and how government and crony capitalism is eating the US from the inside-out. If you have to navigate a system like this, that’s unpredictable at its essence, there’s no better way to maneuver around the chaos than with trend following. Covel discusses how trend following, and being an entrepreneur, gives you freedom. Covel moves on to talks about the 2014 conference in Singapore, where Covel is preparing to have some of the best and brightest names in trend following. Covel then plays a clip from CNBC featuring David Harding. Covel discusses the clip and gives his commentary, discussing momentum and trend following in Harding’s own work, and how the talking heads just don’t get it. Covel questions why CNBC would bring on someone and act like they have no idea of what he does, and spends some time exploring why CNBC would have someone on and ask the questions they ask. Harding also interestingly notes that he is not at the particular conference he is at to learn strategy; Covel explores why Harding might not want to learn strategy at a conference with some of the world’s most powerful people, and what this might mean to the young trader.

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Atlas Shrugged Influence

Joe Capone writes:

“You say that you put books out to ignite conversation. Well, I just finished reading Atlas Shrugged today, at your recommendation. What are your thoughts about this great novel, in relation to trend following and trading? I am curious to hear your thoughts. Thanks Michael.”

Ed Seykota first told me to read Atlas 10 years ago–as a condition to our initial conversation! I have since found that so many top traders look to Rand’s work. For example, David Harding also brought up Atlas Shrugged in conversation as a major influence.

Michael Covel, Joe Kernen & CNBC Insanity

My new book Trend Commandments tackles financial news head on. An excerpt where I analyze a CNBC interview with trend trader David Harding:

Joe Kernen is not devoid of academic intelligence. He holds a bachelor’s degree from the University of Colorado in molecular, cellular, and developmental biology and master’s degree from Massachusetts Institute of Technology. He worked at several investment banks including Merrill Lynch. I am no Harding fanboy or apologist, but I have spent time with him. That research time, coupled with his public career and track record, make him one of the most learned trend trading voices of the past twenty years. It is clear to me that Kernen had a preformulated agenda [in the interview]. His questioning was a transparent attempt to marginalize Harding and trend following. Why would Kernen do that? Imagine if the interview started like this:

“We at CNBC believe in efficient markets and the use of fundamental analysis. Our business model requires viewers to watch. Today, we have a guest on who has made billions with trend following trading, which does not require fundamental analysis or CNBC. Would you like to know how to make money without ever watching our channel again? Welcome David Harding!”


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