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I am looking forward to a future show with more details from Dunn Capital. If I’m not mistaken, they would have a practical opinion on the usefulness of both Bayesian Inference and Efron’s bootstrap method. Efron, of course, is the author of the Bayes critique cited above.

Per the Kaminski piece, there is no guarantee that 800 years of evidence won’t be undone by a perpetual and implacable tyranny of central bank price discovery suppression. This research looks suspiciously like new marketing materials from Greyserman/Hite etal. In today’s world It is absolutely invalid to say that stop orders which lost money on concentrated bets in the US stock index will be a justifiable risk control cost when the market gaps down 50% over a weekend because the Fed finally sh*ts the bed. How can any credible trend follower say they don’t care to know anything about unprecedented and precarious risks to the monetary system in their analysis?

Dunn seems to have taken more into account than ISAM. An educated guess about Dunn’s risk throttle is that one of the inputs is proportional to the difference between the overnight rate and the CPI.

Further to reducing risk in a low payoff environment (throttling), one of your other guests, Peter Schiff, (who you must interview again) has a decent theory that CPI and the overnight rate will never again cross paths or at least not until Keynesian central banking is dead and buried.

BTW, if something goes wrong with the monetary system, have you considered the possibility that agricultural markets and other markets with lock limits could suddenly and simultaneously be both lock limit up and lock limit down?

I’m guessing, in your mind, you have this idea that it is impossible for all positions to simultaneously lose because there is both a long and short side. One side has to win by definition, right? Well, maybe not…

Think about the situation where the monetary system is pushed to the breaking point. Where in the CME rule book does it say a market can’t be locked both up and down? Trend following strongly depends on the assumption of knowing prices or at least a sensible price ranges. What happens when this is suddenly a bad assumption?

DUNN CEO already appeared on my podcast. TFs don’t use Fed analysis in their trading. Of course, as you note, the world could end. In that case far more issues than trading will be relevant.


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Vineer Bhansali Trend Following White Paper

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Mike, Can you send me the white paper that was referenced in the Vineer Bhansali podcast? I apologize if this is posted somewhere obvious and I missed it. Normally I’d probably have found it on my own, but having a 3 week old newborn is temporarily draining my productivity! It’d be much appreciated if you could point me in the direction of the research that was discussed. What a refreshing podcast to hear a more mainstream financial institution embrace real trend following.

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Thanks. Go here for his white paper. And good luck with your new little one!

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Michael, great show. Do you have additional information about the research/historical performance work done by Vineer Bhansali or is it just the information from the PIMCO pages?

Do you know if this fund actually follows the 100% systematic “simple” trend-follower approach back tested in the article or is this just a bait and switch for a discretionary fund? Do you know the actual rules for the “simple” trend-follower approach back-tested in this paper?

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Best bet is to reach out to them for all questions about their papers.


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Ep. 287: Toby Crabel Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

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Toby Crabel

My guest today is Toby Crabel, a tennis player who is now a commodities trader. In 2005, the Financial Times called Crabel “the most well-known trader on the counter-trend side”.

The topic is commodity trading.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

  • Crabel’s history as a pro tennis player
  • Longevity and consistency in tennis and trading
  • Where Crabel stands with the total number of systems he employs
  • The source of Crabel’s profits and the philosophy behind it
  • Price action
  • Winning and losing volatility
  • Why Crabel needs price movement and volume
  • The idea of price shocks and the importance of being aware of them
  • The process of moving from high drawdowns to a much lower drawdown
  • The importance of diversity
  • Early lightbulb moments that informed Crabel’s trading style
  • Crabel’s experience with Victor Niederhoffer
  • How the philosophy of Objectivism has informed Crabel’s life
  • The liquidity of futures markets
  • The importance of persistence

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Trend Following: Pura Vida!

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Hi Michael, I´m a Tim Sykes Challenge student [and] I saw you in one of his DVDs. Since then I have followed your podcast (and great interviews by the way). I’m [an] audio guy [and] I only found your audio book [for] “The Little Book of in Trading”. [W]hen [will] the others books…be available in audio?

I´ve been a broker for 17 years in Costa Rica in [Name] (biggest Insurance company in Central America) and my clients currently are pension funds: private and public. The markets in this country are changing. Our pension funds administrate 15B in local currency and they are doing baby steps to invest in the US markets. Could you recommend me the top funds that do Trend Following that specialize in pension funds or insurance companies?

Greetings from Costa Rica, or how we say, “PURA VIDA”.

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Anthony Todd: “Great Podcast!”

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Hi Michael, Great podcast with Anthony Todd. Just a comment: Please tell him I’m insane and I’ll try to succeed without 500,000,000 bucks capital!

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Thanks for the feedback. He was indeed a great guest.

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Ep. 286: Alex Greyserman Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

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Alex Greyserman

My guest today is Alex Greyserman, Chief Scientist at managed futures firm ISAM. He is also a professor at Columbia University. He is a member of the ISAM Systematic Investment Committee. He has 25 years of experience in the Managed Futures industry, having starting initially as Research Director at Mint Investment Management Co.

The topic is Trend Following.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

  • Idea of young college graduates writing articles about the death of trend following while firms like Greyserman’s continue to have tremendous success
  • Alternatives to thinking only ‘long stocks’
  • Greyserman’s first meeting with Larry Hite and how they have come to have such a career together
  • Why trend following is about more than getting on the right side of the S&P trade
  • The difference between cross-sectional momentum and time series momentum
  • The phrase “crisis alpha” and why trend following does well in times of crisis
  • The cost of not having trend following in your portfolio
  • Benchmarking and diversification
  • Why the worst thing you can do is “trend follow a trend follower”
  • The science of trend following
  • Speculation
  • Trend following your life–not just the markets
  • Dispersion among trend following traders
  • Effect of a higher rate environment

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Ep. 285: Anthony Todd Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Anthony Todd
Anthony Todd

My guest today is Anthony Todd, the CEO of Aspect Capital, one of the most successful managed futures trend following firms. Todd co-founded Aspect in September 1997. Before that, he was with AHL.

The topic is Trend Following.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

  • Why prices aren’t random
  • Finding an inefficiency that the academic financial community refuses to acknowledge
  • The idea of “predictable” patterns in the market
  • The desire to know static positions
  • How crowd behavior drives trends
  • Addressing misconceptions
  • Using fundamentals in a systematic way
  • Defining Todd’s medium-term style of trend following
  • Why “it’s less about the genius of the trade and more about the repeatability of the approach”
  • How long you can be in a particular market before you give up on it
  • Client understanding of trend following drawdowns
  • The phraseology of “crisis alpha”
  • The culture that Todd has built at Aspect
  • Todd’s advice to young entrepreneurs.

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