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No Memory Trading Courtesy of TurtleTrader William Eckhardt

William Eckhardt, the great trend-following trader, has spoken forcefully about the idea of not having a memory in your trading:

“Suppose two traders, A and B, are alike in most respects except the amount of money they have. Suppose A has 10 per cent less money but he initiates a trade first. He gets in earlier than B does. By the time B puts the trade on, the two traders have exactly the same equity. The best course of action has to be the same for both of these traders now. Mind you, these traders have very different entry prices. What this means is that once an initiation is made, it does not matter at all for subsequent decisions what the entry price was. It does not matter. Once you have made an initiation, what your initiation price was has no relevance. The trader must literally trade as though he doesn’t know what his initiation price is.”

Don’t forget it.


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Trend Follower Robert Rotella: Avoid Tinkering

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The firm’s chief researcher Robert Rotella will go back and look at the models to see whether there is anything unsound about the way they are programmed. Generally, there is not.

Next, a check is made to see whether there is a way to improve the model. Such improvements have to made with caution, he says, because the whole idea of being a systematic trader is to have robust systems in place that don’t have to be tweaked all the time.

The more a trader tinkers, the more he has to worry about curve fitting. While Rotella, an absolute disciple of robust models, doesn’t like to fiddle with its models, there is sometimes no choice if the market sends a message that losses continue even after delevering.

“Obviously you don’t want to overhaul a program in response to one year just because something didn’t work. That’s when you’re almost guaranteed that it would have worked the next year had you kept it in there.”

If you keep it changing it, you have no system.


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Ewan Kirk of Cantab on Trend Following

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Our philosophy rests upon two main pillars. The first pillar is: macro, not micro. So we trade macro variables, not stocks and shares and credit default swaps and things like that. We trade across currencies, commodities, interest rates, bonds and equity indices. The second pillar is: a systematic approach, not a discretionary approach. So we describe our style as systematic global macro. Systematic trading involves coming up with a statistical model of the markets. Assuming that model has worked in the past, and that you have developed and researched and tested your model correctly, then your hypothesis is that it’s likely to keep working in the future. So the actual execution of trades is just continuing to follow what the model says. Now that sounds quite mechanical. In fact, it’s no different than the way any good investor works. Why would you invest with Warren Buffett? Because, over the past 30 years, Warren Buffett has made money, and you’re assuming that’s going to continue in the future. Conceptually, that’s no different than what we do.

When I use the term “scientist” to describe myself and my colleagues at Cantab, what I’m really talking about is a mindset. It’s a mindset of evidence based investing and using the scientific method to think about investing. The scientific method has worked pretty well for the human race for the last 2,000 years—it’s worked out better than superstition, anyway. And we believe in applying the same rigorous principles as in medicine or air traffic control. Everyone is quite happy with evidence-based medicine and air traffic control—would you fly in a plane controlled by someone who just had a gut feeling about where they wanted to go?

When people ask: What do you think is going to happen in the future? We always say: We don’t know. I can’t really project whether next year will be a good year for Cantab or a bad year.

Ignore at your peril.


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Algorithms and Decision-Making

Algorithms Are Smart
Algorithms Are Smart

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Hi Michael,

You talked about computers and algorithms in a recent podcast.

I just listened to a talk by Brian Christian for the Long Now foundation about using algorithms to support our decision making. Not necessarily using a computer, but rather to help our thinking and decision making process. A great talk which touches on similar issues. I’d love to hear you interview him some time.

Brian Christian is the co-author of “Algorithms to Live By: The Computer Science of Human Decisions”.

Cheers,
[Name]

Thanks! Looks like a good guest.


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Ep. 466: Don’t Worship the Computer with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Don’t Worship the Computer with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio
Don’t Worship the Computer with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

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Please enjoy my monologue Don’t Worship the Computer with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio. This episode may also include great outside guests from my archive.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio:

  • “Super computers”
  • Systematic trading
  • Creating algorithms
  • Coding
  • Machines replacing humans
  • Breaking down the use of software

“…The power of computers owes nothing (save speed) to the causal peculiarities of electrons darting about on silicon chips…” – Daniel Dennett

“Trend following trader = CPA not AI singularity theorist.” – Michael Covel

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Ep. 465: Sunrise Capital with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Sunrise Capital with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio
Sunrise Capital with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

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Please enjoy my monologue Sunrise Capital with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio. This episode may also include great outside guests from my archive.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio:

  • Brexit and systematic trading
  • Price distribution
  • Price action
  • Directional betting on a coin flip event
  • Preparing for black swan events
  • Are computers good or bad?
  • MAR ratio
  • Diversification

“Systems control the trading ideas. What they do is they give you a statistical edge in creating your trading ideas.” – Chris Stanton

“It’s a bad idea to get the insurance after the catastrophe.” – Jason Gerlach

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Ep. 458: Continuous Improvement with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Continuous Improvement with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio
Continuous Improvement with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

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Please enjoy my monologue Continuous Improvement with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio. This episode may also include great outside guests from my archive.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio:

  • Systematic trading
  • Fundamental trading
  • Gambling
  • Trend following biases
  • Day trading
  • Predictive technical analysis
  • What is the best strategy?

“Is trend following right for everyone? Only you can know that answer.” – Michael Covel

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