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Ep. 49: David Cheval Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

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David Cheval
David Cheval

My guest today is David Cheval. Cheval was an inside witness to Richard Dennis and Bill Eckhardt’s famed Turtle experiment. Through the involvement of his former wife, famed original TurtleTrader Liz Cheval, David Cheval’s history and background for the Turtle story comes from a unique vantage point.

The topic is Turtle Trading.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

  • Events surrounding the Turtle experiment, including his own interesting part in alerting his former wife to the opportunity (he is still an investor in her firm)
  • Cheval’s progression from a runner on the Chicago pits, to the formation of his CPO (Dearborn Capital Management), to his career in law today
  • The presence of Richard Dennis on the Chicago Board of Trade in the years prior to the Turtle experiment
  • Some of the lessons that can be gleaned from some of the most successful Turtles
  • The difference between volatility and risk
  • Why basic trend following philosophies are timeless

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Ep. 48: Michael Gibbons Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

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Michael Gibbons
Michael Gibbons

My guest today is Michael Gibbons, a market timer (otherwise known as a trend following trader) who runs a firm called Gibbons Trading. Gibbons started as an economics major and quickly realized that much of what he was taught in academia didn’t add up. He has been trading since 1971, and was one of the first to discover what is now known as stock index arbitrage. He was one of the first to use computerized trading and currently provides his proprietary research primarily to large traders and hedge funds.

The topic is Trend Following.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

  • How Gibbons started in the markets
  • The fallacies of buy & hold and fundamental analysis
  • Trading prices apart from everything else (and how this is close to playing the market like a video game, i.e. pong)
  • The problem of when the media is simply “making things up”
  • How trading can be primarily psychological
  • The problems of the efficient market hypothesis (EMH) and academia
  • The benefits of having a trend following strategy during chaotic times; the danger of gurus
  • Separating your ego from your trading

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Ep. 46: Ralph Vince Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

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Ralph Vince
Ralph Vince

My guest today is Ralph Vince. Vince is by profession a computer programmer writing analytical programs for funds, large traders and professional gamblers. He is the author of five books on investing in his field of expertise, portfolio management and portfolio/trade optimization.

The topic is trading.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

  • Optimal bet sizes
  • Whether Ed Thorp’s work and the Kelly criteria had any effect on Vince’s work
  • The importance of knowing the optimal spot depending on your criteria
  • Why maximizing profits can result in a large drawdown – and why you should be happy about that
  • If diversification really does give you a free lunch
  • The importance of learning the wrong approach

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Ep. 45: Howard Getson Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

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Howard Getson
Howard Getson

My guest today is Howard Getson, an entrepreneur and president & CEO of Capitalogix. Getson is an associate of Stendahl. Getson has a degree in psychology and philosophy from Duke University, an MBA and law degree from Northwestern, and has practiced corporate law. Getson is running a hedge fund today as well as a quant research shop, and he’s in the business of systematically finding edges through all sorts of different approaches – not only trend following. Getson started his first business in the sixth grade, and he has always had the mind of an entrepreneur.

The topic is entrepreneurship.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

  • Getson’s legal background and how being a practicing corporate attorney influenced his trading and other business practices – as well as how a diverse background can help
  • “E-gene”, and how entrepreneurism is at the core of what both Getson and Covel practice
  • How hunches can be dangerous
  • Turning your hobby into your business
  • Recognizing patterns
  • The “three levels of mastery” – cognitive, emotional, and physical
  • How minimum standards can define your life
  • How systematic trading can define your minimum standards
  • Controlling emotions through automation
  • Importance of travel with a focus on Southeast Asia in particular and why this area of the world is so important to keep an eye on

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Rickson Gracie, Malcolm Gladwell, The Turtles (Band) and the Pixies All to Make Trend Following Connections

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Episode #22 of my monologue series is live on the podcast–listen on iTunes. Also:

Do I get some props for bringing Rickson Gracie, Malcolm Gladwell, The Turtles (Band; their biggest hit) and the Pixies into the same episode?

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Ep. 43: Van Tharp Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

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Van Tharp
Van Tharp

Van Tharp is on the podcast:

My guest today is Van Tharp. Tharp runs the Van Tharp Institute and is the author of four acclaimed books. He was also featured in Jack Schwager’s Market Wizard’s: Interviews with Great Traders. Van Tharp received his Ph.D. in psychology, is a certified Master Practitioner of Neuro Linguistic Programming (NLP), a Certified Master Time Line Therapist, a certified Modeler of NLP, and an Assistant Trainer of NLP. He has used his expertise in NLP to create the successful models of trading and investing upon which so much of his work is based. Tharp also was also considered for the original Turtle program with Richard Dennis and Bill Eckhardt.

The topic is trading psychology.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

  • Tharp’s psychological expertise to explain why trading psychology is so important to being a successful trader
  • Importance of happiness in relation to trading psychology
  • The influence of Tom Basso, Bill Eckhardt, and Ed Seykota (and his concept of “market’s money”)
  • The notion of self-sabotage

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Ep. 38: Brad Rathe Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

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Brad Rathe
Brad Rathe

Trader Brad Rathe:

My guest today is Brad Rathe, a trader, and programmer. Rathe allocates funds to other traders, as well as operates his own global macro fund. Rathe has worked at such firms as EMC (original Turtle), Northbourne, and Rotella. Rathe moved to Chicago the day he graduated college and immersed himself in the pits of the Chicago Board of Trade, initially working in the “meats” pit (pork bellies, live cattle, live hogs, and feeder cattle).

The topic is Trend Following.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

  • Practical/physical factors involved in the futures pit in the late 80’s/early 90’s
  • The move to screen-based exchanges (computer trading) replacing floor trading
  • Working at Globex
  • How the CTA business grew under the Turtles
  • The importance of programming
  • Tweaking and changing your trend following system
  • MF Global, Madoff, Wasendorf and other cheaters
  • The importance of being unemotional during a big blowup

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