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Ep. 45: Howard Getson Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Howard Getson
Howard Getson

My guest today is Howard Getson, an entrepreneur and president & CEO of Capitalogix. Getson is an associate of Stendahl. Getson has a degree in psychology and philosophy from Duke University, an MBA and law degree from Northwestern, and has practiced corporate law. Getson is running a hedge fund today as well as a quant research shop, and he’s in the business of systematically finding edges through all sorts of different approaches – not only trend following. Getson started his first business in the sixth grade, and he has always had the mind of an entrepreneur.

The topic is entrepreneurship.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

  • Getson’s legal background and how being a practicing corporate attorney influenced his trading and other business practices – as well as how a diverse background can help
  • “E-gene”, and how entrepreneurism is at the core of what both Getson and Covel practice
  • How hunches can be dangerous
  • Turning your hobby into your business
  • Recognizing patterns
  • The “three levels of mastery” – cognitive, emotional, and physical
  • How minimum standards can define your life
  • How systematic trading can define your minimum standards
  • Controlling emotions through automation
  • Importance of travel with a focus on Southeast Asia in particular and why this area of the world is so important to keep an eye on

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Ep. 43: Van Tharp Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Van Tharp
Van Tharp

Van Tharp is on the podcast:

My guest today is Van Tharp. Tharp runs the Van Tharp Institute and is the author of four acclaimed books. He was also featured in Jack Schwager’s Market Wizard’s: Interviews with Great Traders. Van Tharp received his Ph.D. in psychology, is a certified Master Practitioner of Neuro Linguistic Programming (NLP), a Certified Master Time Line Therapist, a certified Modeler of NLP, and an Assistant Trainer of NLP. He has used his expertise in NLP to create the successful models of trading and investing upon which so much of his work is based. Tharp also was also considered for the original Turtle program with Richard Dennis and Bill Eckhardt.

The topic is trading psychology.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

  • Tharp’s psychological expertise to explain why trading psychology is so important to being a successful trader
  • Importance of happiness in relation to trading psychology
  • The influence of Tom Basso, Bill Eckhardt, and Ed Seykota (and his concept of “market’s money”)
  • The notion of self-sabotage

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Ep. 38: Brad Rathe Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Brad Rathe
Brad Rathe

Trader Brad Rathe:

My guest today is Brad Rathe, a trader, and programmer. Rathe allocates funds to other traders, as well as operates his own global macro fund. Rathe has worked at such firms as EMC (original Turtle), Northbourne, and Rotella. Rathe moved to Chicago the day he graduated college and immersed himself in the pits of the Chicago Board of Trade, initially working in the “meats” pit (pork bellies, live cattle, live hogs, and feeder cattle).

The topic is Trend Following.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

  • Practical/physical factors involved in the futures pit in the late 80’s/early 90’s
  • The move to screen-based exchanges (computer trading) replacing floor trading
  • Working at Globex
  • How the CTA business grew under the Turtles
  • The importance of programming
  • Tweaking and changing your trend following system
  • MF Global, Madoff, Wasendorf and other cheaters
  • The importance of being unemotional during a big blowup

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Ep. 37: Ryan Holiday Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Ryan Holiday
Ryan Holiday

Ryan Holiday is on the podcast:

My guest today is Ryan Holiday, the director of marketing for American Apparel, media strategist for Tucker Max, Dov Charney, and others, and an author.

The topic is his book Trust Me, I’m Lying: Confessions of a Media Manipulator.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

  • The media food chain
  • What goes into media manipulation
  • The lie of “if you’re doing something great, it will be heard”
  • Gatekeepers in the media
  • How blogs are our digital bloodsport
  • Why being inaccurate and inflammatory gets more page views
  • How we don’t seek honesty or reality

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Gil Morales on the Trend Following Podcast with Michael Covel

Gil Morales

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Ep. 33: David Stendahl Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Dave Stendahl
Dave Stendahl

My guest today is Dave Stendahl of Capitalogix, the Managing Partner at Signal Trading Group and the co-author of a number of books. His focus is on trading systems and portfolio construction, specifically within the global futures markets. He tracks and trades 40 individual markets across eight different sectors.

The topic is trading.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

  • Stendahl’s approach is that a system should have as few moving parts as possible; it should be simple enough to be explained on the back of a cocktail napkin
  • Analogy to cars, and how you can easily fix a simpler car in your garage as opposed to a complex Lexus
  • Everyone is using a system in one way or another
  • Stendahl talks about his beginnings, collaborating with his father in the mid 1970’s
  • When he was introduced to technical analysis, and had the lightbulb moment, he realized he could make money based off of something other than fundamentals.
  • Stendahl’s dyslexia
  • Ray Dalio of Bridgewater, who says that he is 100% systematic, but doesn’t use any technical information
  • Position sizing and money management, and how you can approach this systematically

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Ep. 29: Mike Dever Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Mike Dever
Mike Dever

My guest today is Mike Dever, an American businessman, futures trader, entrepreneur, and author. Dever is the founder and CEO of Brandywine Asset Management, Inc., an investment management firm founded in 1982.

The topic is Trend Following.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

  • Being an entrepreneur from an early age and making his first investments in his early 20s
  • Some of the myths discussed in “Jackass Investing”
  • How everybody is a market timer
  • The stigma against investing in futures
  • Return drivers
  • The risks you take by being risk averse
  • The shift in attitudes towards volatility in America
  • Why strategies based on sound return drivers are so important to his firm and where he’s at today

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