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Ed Seykota Trend Following Wisdom

Some perspective from Ed Seykota taken from “Trend Following”:


The following story passed along from an associate is “pure Seykota”:

“I attended a day-long seminar in February 1995 in Toronto, Canada where Seykota was one of the guest speakers. The WHOLE audience peppered Seykota with questions like: Do you like gold, where do you think the Canadian $ is headed, how do you know when there is a top, how do you know when the trend is up etc.? To each of these, he replied: ‘I like gold—it’s shiny, pretty—makes nice jewelry’ or ‘I have no idea where the Canadian dollar is headed or the trend is up when price is moving up, etc.’ His replies were simple, straight-forward answers to the questions asked of him. Later, I learned through the event organizer that a large majority of the audience (who paid good money, presumably to learn the ‘secrets’ of trading from a market wizard) were not impressed. Many felt they had wasted their time and money listening to Seykota. Seykota’s message couldn’t be clearer to anyone who cared to listen. The answers were found in the very questions each person asked. Don’t ask, ‘How do you know the trend is moving up?’ Instead, ask, ‘What is going to tell me the trend is up?’ Not, ‘What do you think of gold?’ Instead, ask, ‘Am I correctly trading gold?’ Seykota’s answers effectively placed everyone in front of a huge mirror, reflecting their trading self back at them. If you don’t even know the question to ask about trading, much less the answers, get out of the business and spend your life doing something you enjoy.”

How would you have reacted to Seykota’s speech? Walk out or be curious? Think about it.

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I wanted to reach out and thank you for the books you have written. I will admit I’ve read them all from obtaining them through the library system, but I now believe I will buy them as resources to reference. The “Trend Following” philosophy clicked immediately with me and listening to your podcast has really enlightened my mind considering I’ve been typically listening to Motley Fool for my job as a Financial Analyst. In a short period of time I feel I can see through the garbage that is filling those podcasts. I still listen to keep up with my CFO, but feel as if I’m a lone wolf at work with a strategy that none of them could ever understand. Within weeks of reading on Ed Seykota I have already programmed an entire Google Doc to automate my buy/sell/risk/data pull just by typing a ticker for what I want to trade. Kudos to you for following this path and providing the knowledge to us for consumption. I hope to continue to follow your path as you continue. If you are ever in Colorado feel free to check-in with me and see whether I’ve hit life changing levels yet.

Thanks again,
[Name]

Thanks!

Ed Seykota Larry Hite


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Human Behavior Pros on Michael Covel Podcast

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Here is an easy way to dig into so many of the psychology pros that have appeared on my podcast.

It will only take you around 30 hours to listen to all.

What else are you going to do? Watch that Kardashian show?

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Ep. 448: Mike Lofgren Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Mike Lofgren
Mike Lofgren

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My guest today is Mike Lofgren, an author and a former Republican U.S. Congressional aide. He retired in May 2011 after 28 years as a Congressional staff member. His writings, critical of politics in the United States, particularly the Republican Party, were published after his retirement and garnered widespread attention.

The topic is his book The Deep State: The Fall of the Constitution and the Rise of a Shadow Government.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio:

  • The deep state phenomenon
  • Military industrial complex
  • National debt
  • Negative interest rates
  • Does your vote matter?

“If we were ever able to get the money out of politics, that would be the precursor, that’s the precondition for any other reform.” – Mike Lofgren

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Ep. 442: Process, Outcome and Sport with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Process, Outcome and Sport with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio
Process, Outcome and Sport with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

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Please enjoy my monologue Process, Outcome and Sport with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio. This episode may also include great outside guests from my archive.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio:

  • Thinking about thinking
  • The importance of intellectual humility
  • The necessity of innovation
  • The longest view in the room
  • A contrarian mindset
  • A tolerance of uncertainty
  • Be long science
  • A healthy respect for tradition
  • A reverence for disruption

“We talk a great deal about being curious, not critical. About asking the question until you understand something truly. About not being afraid to ask the obvious question that everyone else seems to know the answer to. And about the willingness to say three simple words, ‘I don’t know.’ Tesla’s Elon Musk describes his everyday stance as, ‘You should take the approach that you’re wrong. Your goal is to be less wrong’.” – Sam Hinkie

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Ep. 440: My Sins My Own with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

My Sins My Own with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio
My Sins My Own with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

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Please enjoy my monologue My Sins My Own with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio. This episode may also include great outside guests from my archive.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio:

  • Process vs. outcome
  • Sports and trading analogies
  • Statistical thinking

“Think through all the possibilities, know the probabilities and be ready.” – Michael Covel

“Progress was not in the result, the progress was in the poise.” – Brad Stevens

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Ep. 435: Steven Pinker Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Steven Pinker
Steven Pinker

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My guest today is Steven Pinker, a Canadian-born American cognitive scientist, psychologist, linguist, and popular science author. He is Johnstone Family Professor in the Department of Psychology at Harvard University, and is known for his advocacy of evolutionary psychology and the computational theory of mind. He covers phenomena that have traditionally not been looked at scientifically such as: visual perception, war and peace, and differences in writing styles. He has authored numerous books with his most recent being, “The Sense of Style.”

The topics are his books The Sense of Style: The Thinking Person’s Guide to Writing in the 21st Century and Blank Slate.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

  • Evolution
  • Natural selection
  • War statistics
  • Cognitive science
  • Evolutionary psychology

“I don’t think there is any single procedure called the scientific method. I think that science just is the attempt to explain phenomena using explanations that you can show to the best of your ability are true.” – Steven Pinker

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Ep 433: Catherine Stott Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Catherine Stott
Catherine Stott

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My guest today is Catherine Stott, the author of, “Hypnotrading: A practical guide to using hypnosis and NLP to improve your trading performance: Self-hypnosis and psychotherapeutic techniques for traders.” Catherine believes that hypnotherapy and neuro-lingustic programing can help traders defeat inner challenges and become more successful. She got started working with traders after helping a friend, who happened to be a trader. He helped her understand the world of trading a bit more throughout their sessions and this ignited her interest deeper. She has been helping traders for years but didn’t start HypnoTrading until 2014.

The topic is her book Hypnotrading: A Practical Guide to Using Hypnosis and NLP to Improve Your Trading Performance.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio:

  • Stress vs. anxiety
  • Meditation vs. hypnosis
  • Being in a relaxed state
  • Negative self talk
  • Fear of success
  • Modeling
  • P-A-C-E-R
  • Luck and expectation
  • Defining goal setting

“It’s about your experience rather than your academic ability, and your drive and thrive for learning and achieving.” Catherine Stott

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