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Ep. 143: Doing More With Less with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Doing More With Less with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio
Doing More With Less with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

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John Paulson -65%

Davie Tate III writes:

Hey Mike. Davie Tate here. I was thinking about your recent podcast where you talked about how the sharks were posting Bill Dunn’s worst years to demonstrate the failure of trading. It reminded me of the recent articles on John Paulson. You may have read that his gold fund is doing horribly this year. Down 65%. Just like with Bill Dunn, people who don’t understand trading are just salivating over this demonstration of the “failure of trading”. The fund only represents 2% of Paulson’s funds. If this fund operates totally independently of his others funds then I might be inclined to agree with some of the criticism Mike. I can’t understand how any professional trader of Paulson’s caliber could allow his fund to lose 65% of assets. Also, I can’t understand why any professional trader could have looked at a gold chart for the past few years and decide to go long which is the only way that I can imagine that he could be down 65%. If he does incorporate counter trending strategies and was long then I don’t understand why his stops didn’t prevent such a massive loss. On the other hand Mike, if this fund does not operate totally independent, but operates as part of all of his assets, then my view would be totally different. A 2% investment of total funds under management while a bit high, is not a totally unreasonable amount for a professional to risk on a trade. Furthermore if that is the case, just think about it Mike. A 65% unrealized loss on a particular trade means you’re still in the trade. We are actually willing to risk 100% of the 1% or so that we risk on each trade. I don’t think some people realize that. If you have $100,000 trading account and you risk $1000, 65% down in that trade means you are still in the trade. The trade doesn’t end until you either get stopped at a 100% loss of the $1,000 or you take profits of 2:1 or 3:1 on that trade. Some people don’t seem to realize that about trading.

65% loss in one market is not trend following. Where is the cutting of loss? Maybe his strategy will work, but it’s not loss cutting. Dunn’s DD was from taking many small losses across many markets. Those add up to a DD. No one drop on one market. Plus, there really can’t be a TF fund on one market alone. No diversification.


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Ep. 142: Alpesh Patel Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

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Alpesh Patel

My guest today is Alpesh Patel, a hedge fund manager, Financial Times columnist and Bloomberg TV presenter.

The topic is his book How to Win at Spread Betting: An Analysis of Why Some People Win at Spread Betting and Some Lose.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

  • Comparisons betweens stocks and futures
  • What the winners have in common
  • Trade frequency, and why active traders tended to do better in Patel’s study
  • Buy & holders vs. spread betters
  • Academic vs. practical insights
  • Whether Patel finds himself at odds with other Financial Times writers
  • Why people like to imagine that trend following and momentum trading doesn’t exist
  • Patel’s experience as an expert witness with “trend following on trial”
  • Why the average person has difficulty with betting small, cutting losses, and letting winners ride
  • George Soros, game theory and trading psychology
  • Win/loss ratios
  • A coin flipping experiment performed with Ph.D’s, the importance of position sizing, and why systems aren’t everything
  • Why gut instinct is the opposite of what professional traders use

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Inspirational Proof

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Hi Mike. Thank you for the latest newsletter and for introducing me to Asacker and Watts. The podcast with Tom Asacker is superb. The final part, listening to Alan Watts moved me to tears, what he said is so true and said so eloquently. I have two daughters and hope to convince them to work for themselves when they get through their education. I hope they will listen to your podcast at some point – they’re aged 11 and 13. Your own story of itself is inspirational and proof that belief is crucial. Incidentally, JOB, stands for; JUST OVER BROKE! I heard that many years ago, and how true it is. Which ever part of the world you’re in, have a good day.
Best wishes,
Rob

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Ep. 141: Trading Places with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Trading Places with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio
Trading Places with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

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Ep. 140: Tom Asacker Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Tom Asacker
Tom Asacker

My guest today is Tom Asacker, an artist, writer, inventor, and philosopher. He writes, teaches, and speaks about radically new practices and ideas for success in times of uncertainty and change.

The topic is his book The Business of Belief: How the World’s Best Marketers, Designers, Salespeople, Coaches, Fundraisers, Educators, Entrepreneurs, and Other Leaders Get Us To Believe.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

  • Choice and distraction/distrust
  • Belief and its connection to how people make decisions and habit
  • Faith healers and how information can change our beliefs and perceptions
  • How the supermarket works as a metaphor for belief and choice
  • Vernon Smith and Daniel Kahneman
  • The instinctive “feeling” mind vs. the slow, deliberate thinking mind
  • Leading people to choose themselves vs. just getting a job
  • Thinking like a child
  • Comfort vs. desire
  • Why those that have nothing to lose can put themselves in the best position for success
  • Pulling the curtain back on your own mind to determine what your own mind is doing to prevent you from living a full life
  • The power shift to the individual via the internet
  • Why we see what our minds are conditioned to see
  • Practice, hard work, and passion
  • The metaphor of baseball, perception, belief, and behavior
  • Thinking your way to a change vs. acting your way to a change
  • Alan Watts, and the question of “What if money was no object?”

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Ep. 139: Steve Burns Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Steve Burns
Steve Burns

My guest today is Steve Burns. Burns has been investing and trading in the stock market successfully for many years. He is the author of seventeen books about the stock market. He is one of the top reviewers for books about trading and investing, having read and reviewed several hundred books.

The topic is trading.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

  • Risk management
  • Position sizing
  • The magic of compounding
  • Why individual trades have very little meaning
  • Turning down the volume on your emotions in your trades
  • How your losses can be an education
  • Concept and theory with regard to trend following
  • Quantifying and capturing trends
  • “Just trading the numbers”
  • Greed and fear in the context of trends
  • The common attitudes and misconceptions of novice to trend following traders
  • Trading against the market vs. trading against yourself
  • Drawdowns, and the importance of studying the track records of the great traders
  • Entry and exit strategies
  • The importance of starting “right” in every enterprise
  • The curse of laziness
  • Ignoring the talking heads
  • Why you don’t need 20 screens on your desk to trade optimally
  • Cutting your losses
  • The 1% rule
  • Being blinded by the fundamentals
  • Why if you diversify, control your risk, and go with the trend, it just has to work
  • I.Q. vs. emotional intelligence (E.Q.)
  • Technology and long term trend following

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