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Ep. 419: Mebane Faber Interview With Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Mebane Faber
Mebane Faber

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Today on Trend Following Radio Michael Covel interviews Mebane Faber. Mebane is a noted author, blogger, and portfolio manager with Cambria Investment Management. His new book, “Invest with the House: Hacking the Top Hedge Funds” is out now. This is Mebane’s 4th appearance on Trend Following Radio. Michael and Mebane have a slightly different outlook on trading but they do align. The biggest similarity is that they both come at the markets from a quant way of thinking.

Michael starts the podcast off asking, “Why do some of the big name guys motivate you so much.” Mebane says he always loved investing. In his spare time during college he would explore finance. A fund manager named John Griffin, who was Julian Robertson’s right hand man, taught at Mebane’s school UVA. It was in this class that many famed hedge fund managers provided his first initiation. The managers would give examples of different kinds of research they would do. Mebane knew he would never have the resources to do that type of research, so he turned to studying the numbers instead.

Mebane’s new book is based on mimicking the trades of some of the most successful hedge funds. He says it isn’t too hard to identify the “Michael Jordan’s” of the finance world. The key, however, is to figure out who’s trades you could piggy back off of and be successful. You have to go into this believing markets aren’t efficient. Where do you find the best players? Mebane studied 10-12 managers that friends and colleagues suggested. The most obvious was Warren Buffett. Turns out, you still make amazing returns piggy backing off of Warren Buffett’s trades. You cannot trade futures in this way or trade shorts, you must be long only. Trading with this strategy, as opposed to buying straight into these big hedge funds, gets you away from paying huge fees and large taxes. In Mebane’s latest book he goes much more in depth into this topic.

Michael then goes into Twitter questions posted by listeners. The first question, “My market is too small? What should I do?” Mebane says there is a “home country bias” among people. People like to invest in their own markets. The Asian countries happen to have the worst of this bias. It is a terrible habit to have if you need proper asset allocation in your portfolio. You must look beyond your own country, be agnostic in your trading. Don’t let your emotions or irrationality rule.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio:

  • Home country bias
  • Diversification
  • Different trading strategies
  • Finding the most successful hedge funds
  • Margin of safety

“Look beyond your shores. You have to be investment agnostic. As much as I love my home team, you have to be agnostic while investing.” – Mebane Faber

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Ep. 311: Mebane Faber Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Mebane Faber
Mebane Faber

Michael Covel speaks with Mebane Faber. Faber is a a noted author (The Ivy Portfolio), blogger, and portfolio manager with Cambria Investment Management. Faber is involved in many different areas of the market, extremely practical and pragmatic. This is Mebane Faber’s third visit to the podcast and he and Covel discuss the podcast medium; trend following, buy & hold, and emotions; anti-fragility; Ray Dalio, risk parity, and his strategies All Weather and Pure Alpha; asset allocation as a buy and hold investor; Faber’s five ETF’s, and his factors for starting one; deflation, inflation, Japan, why traders run out of the store when things are on sale; value investing; and what if governments didn’t meddle with markets. For more information on Mebane Faber, visit mebfaber.com, cambriafunds.com.

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Ep. 146: Mebane Faber Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Mebane Faber
Mebane Faber

Michael Covel speaks with Mebane Faber on his second visit to the podcast. Faber is a noted author, blogger, and portfolio manager with Cambria Investment Management. His new book, “Shareholder Yield: A Better Approach to Dividend Investing” is out now. If you’re into quantitative style investing, Faber is someone who should have your attention. Covel and Faber discuss the state of quant investing in Asia; how asset allocation is like “bullets”; the benefits of quantitative-style systems; protecting yourself against your own behavioral biases; connections between biology and trading; behavioral finance; keeping yourself from making irrational decisions; boom-bust cycles and bubbles; quant views on the efficient market theory and buy and hold; Japanese markets compared to US markets; “cheap” and “expensive” countries and markets; asset class agnosticism; avoiding the big losses; investing based on dividends; momentum as a return factor; and exit strategies.

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