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Richard Dennis Trading Misrepresentation

From a reader:

Michael, I am interested in learning about trend trading and read a lot of amazing things about the turtles. However, I tried to find something online about Richard and his staggering losses during the late 80’s and 90’s. Maybe I am missing something here, but is there a reason that his system was not working after a certain period? Is there an article or resource you could point me to? Thank you.

Your premise/predicate is off. You got it correct that Dennis had losses, but you need to see the whole picture. The full story of these issues is here.

Lesson? The Internet is a limited source of knowledge. Find out more about Richard Dennis books here.


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James Montier: Did He Miss the Trend Followers?

James Montier writes (PDF):

Tail risk protection appears to be one of many investment fads du jour. All too often those seeking tail risk protection appear to be motivated by the fear of missing out (not fear at all, but greed). However, the surge of tail risk products may well not be the hoped-for panacea. Indeed, they may even contain the seeds of their own destruction (something we often encounter in finance – witness portfolio insurance, etc). If the price of tail risk insurance is driven up too high, it simply won’t benefit its purchasers. When considering tail risk protection, investors must start by defining the tail risk they are seeking to protect themselves against. This sounds obvious, but often seems to get scant attention in the tail risk discussion. Once you have identified the risk, you can start to think about how you would like to protect yourself against that risk. In many situations, cash is a severely underappreciated tail risk hedge. The hardest element of tail risk protection is likely to be timing. It is clear that a permanent allocation is likely to do more harm than good in many situations. When it comes to timing tail risk protection, a long-term value-based approach and an emphasis on absolute standards of value, coupled with a broad mandate (a wide opportunity set, or, investment flexibility, if you prefer) seems to offer the best hope.

A paper seemingly written without knowledge of trend following’s success. Preparing for tail risk, which means successfully executing as a trend following trader, is not predicated on “timing” for success. It is but one element of the game, but surely not the core focus.

Note: Shout to Jason Rolf for PDF tip.


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Compounded Absolute Returns for a Lifetime

You see if every day: distraction. The distraction that goes on during 2011 daily life is off the charts.

Trend following does not care.

Trend following wants to make the most money possible.

Trend following is still the legal and ethical way to get rich.

Trend following at its core is the greatest strategy available to compound absolute returns.

And compounding absolute returns, whether trader, entrepreneur, or businessman, is the way to major wealth.


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The Visual Way to NOT Be a Trend Follower

This is not the trend following day:

A top trend following office resembles that of an attorney, CPA or insurance salesman–no busy types glued to screens pretending to be masters of the universe. Trend following is an intellectual game, not a software/screen/juice game.

Note: Before someone screams bloody murder, of course for some multi-billion dollar fund there might need to be more daily execution issues, but the trend following itself is not about being connected to a screen 24/7.


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Danie Pretorius of Morgan Stanley: Hit and Run

I recently posted about this view of my new book Trend Commandments:

I’ve found Covel’s previous books interesting, and have re-read ‘Trend Following’ multiple times. The latest book unfortunately does nothing to build on the previous works (for instance, there is still no attempt to deal with survivorship bias in the performance data), but instead loads the pages with random anecdotes and film quotations that tangentially supports his thesis. Disconcertingly, what the book lacks in substance is made up for in ego. If you’re not with him, you’re against him – and a moron. Successful value investors? Don’t exist (sorry Mr Buffet, you made your money through luck and speculating with derivatives). Covel admonishes the world for ‘going with the herd’… ummm… isn’t following a trend exactly that? Too light on science, way too light on humility.

As the post shows, it was debated extensively. Then last night I stumbled onto the reviewer’s real name, saw he worked at Morgan Stanley, and dropped him this simple email:

“I welcome the criticism, but why not use your real [full] name?”

He responded via his Morgan Stanley address:

Hi Michael,

Quite a surprise to hear from you – not sure exactly what your asking? Danie is my real name.

As you no doubt are aware, I am an equity analyst in South Africa. Please do not construe that to mean I am dogmatically attached to fundamental analysis, far from it. I must confess to having reread my copy of Trend Following multiple times. I think precisely because I see the limitations of fundamental analysis on a daily basis, I am conceptually a big fan of systematic trading with objective entry and exit signals, and why I’m so interested in the trend following concepts. Explains why I own all your books…

My criticism on the last book is simply that there was little in the way of new content to build on what you’ve covered before, and that any other trading/investing method is so summarily dismissed, which makes the book seem less objective.

I certainly don’t question the concepts inherent in trend following. However, while I realise the book is not an academic paper, I’m struggling to distinguish between the efficacy of the system & trading rules and the talents of the traders themselves. For instance, the Turtles had the same rules but wildly varying results; by the same token, a sample of successful long-term buy-and-hold investors says equally little about the style if the multiple failures along the way are not highlighted. I think it would add quite a lot to the body of knowledge to deal with (a) the failures in the trend following space – if these are known, (b) the differences between traders’ approaches, and (c) how the successful traders manage whipsaws. E.g., how important is market selection and model parameterisation vs. other factors?

Hopefully it’s clear that I don’t have an agenda here, just a genuine interest in the topic.

My private email address is […]. I look forward to the next book!

Regards,
Danie Pretorius
RMB Morgan Stanley
Johannesburg

I responded:

Hi Danie,

Why not use your real full name and firm name on your review? That was not left out due to the fact that Morgan Stanley raises assets for the very traders mentioned [in my books]?

Of course, there was an agenda. If there wasn’t you would have reviewed the book with a professional disagreement–like in [your] email.

You didn’t.

Best,
Michael Covel

This individual owns all my books, likes them all, is not really a diehard fundamental guy, but receives a paycheck from making daily fundamental predictions?

Take your best whack at me personally. Take your best whack at my work. However, if you are going to do so, please disclose when you are a fundamental guy who also works for a firm (Morgan Stanley) who raises assets for the very trend traders mentioned in the very book you slam.

An honorable enough request?


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“More Sellers than Buyers”

What causes a crash? Four words:

“More sellers than buyers.”

That’s it.
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A Value Investor’s Perspective on Tail Risk Protection

You are a value investor? You want to protect against tail risk? Two choices:

James Montier says this.

I say this.

Don’t get me wrong, I like Montier’s behavioral views on markets. There is, however, a better solution to tail risk and it rhymes with …bend wallowing.

Note: Tip to Cullen Roche for the Montier paper.


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