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I’m a huge fan of your podcasts and have finished your books Trend Following, Little Book of Trading and Trend Commandments. I also listen to your podcast pretty religiously and am working through your early episodes with the fund managers. I’m currently in medical school living off loans so I use the public library for books whenever possible. I’m using just 50 day and 200 day moving averages and reading some of [name] works now. Do you have any advice on sources and ideas for trading systems and rules? Or any advice on the application of trend following.

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Ep. 487: Robert Cialdini Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Robert Cialdini's 'Pre-Suasion'
Robert Cialdini’s ‘Pre-Suasion’

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My guest today is Robert Cialdini, an American psychologist and academic. He is the Regents’ Professor Emeritus of Psychology and Marketing at Arizona State University and was a visiting professor of marketing, business and psychology at Stanford University, as well as at the University of California at Santa Cruz. He is best known for his 1984 book on persuasion and marketing, Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion. It was based on three “undercover” years applying for and training at used car dealerships, fund-raising organizations, and telemarketing firms to observe real-life situations of persuasion.

The topics are his books Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion and Pre-Suasion: A Revolutionary Way to Influence and Persuade.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

  • Establishing trust before asking for anything
  • Rational self interest
  • Anchoring a persons perception
  • Asking for advice rather than an opinion
  • Warren Buffett’s shareholder letter
  • Environmental responsibility

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Ed Seykota: “Truly Amazing Stuff…”

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Michael, I really enjoyed your podcast with Ed Seykota (listen). Truly amazing stuff. Actually I enjoy most all of your podcasts. Thank you for your work on trend following. I practice trend following daily and long term with Dunn Capital largely because of your writings.

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No Sugar Coating: Give It Straight!

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Bravo Mike, the 1st version of the monologue was spot on. Its exactly what people who feel it is too ‘hard’ need to hear. No sugar coating. The world is not a place of only rainbows and lolly pops. If indeed you get pushback for it know that there are people that appreciate the harder tone. Thank you for sharing that version and please keep up the magnificent work.

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Michael,

This email may be a bit long, but I wanted to express my appreciation for your podcast, your way of viewing the world and for exposing me to many of the critical thinkers I wish I had learned of a long time ago.

Thank you for introducing me to trend following.

I love rules. I’ve always known this, but I also haven’t always understood just how rules can help you achieve anything and everything. I always understood finance and investing to be a complete gamble. You can’t trust fundamentals, you can’t control the weather, you can’t predict crisis, but you can understand price, and you can respond to shifts in price. Price gets you paid. Trend following, and your book The Complete TurtleTrader showed me that rules won’t make you win every single time, but when you follow good rules, you lose a whole lot less than when you role the dice.

A few heuristics I’ve placed on my wall, one is a paraphrase of Richard Dennis: “Following rules is always better than making judgements.” Another by Winston Churchill: “Facts are better than dreams.”

I am a chiropractor in private practice and I practice two techniques, both of which I am very successful at. I have had patients travel from afar who have seen other practitioners who use the same, or similar techniques as myself, and I am able to get results when the other doctors don’t. Some of those other doctors are fairly prominent in the profession, and are even instructors.

It’s a little disconcerting, when someone comes to you for help after they haven’t been helped by someone you look up to.

“Geez, if he can’t help you, what do you think I’m gonna be able to do?”

When I talk with my colleagues I realize they aren’t practicing the technique the way it was taught, they’re making judgements. I follow the rules, and I see success where others don’t. I’m nothing special… I just trust the process. You’ve helped me to understand my focus should always be on process and the outcome will take care of itself.

I’m ashamed to tell you that I haven’t yet personally implemented a fiscal investment strategy (don’t yell at me). I’m trying to save up enough to invest with a systems-styled firm. They typically require a significant amount to start an account, and I just haven’t yet had the guts yet to try it on my own without any hand-holding in the process. I also have a wife and 6 young children, so most of my money gets invested in my family and my practice.

Thank you for introducing me to Nassim Taleb. I love his acerbic assurance that you can’t predict. Period. All you can do is have rules in place to respond to what happens. I so appreciate an Anti-Fragile philosophy and how Taleb has applied it to nearly all aspects of his life, including fitness. I would have never heard of Taleb if it hadn’t been for your podcast.

Thank you for introducing me to Daniel Kahneman, Ryan Holiday, stoic philosophy… I could go on and on.

You’ve become kind of like a business/philosophy coach to me. I think I enjoy your monologues, if not more, at least as well as I enjoy your interviews.

I don’t agree with every viewpoint you hold, (I am a confessional Christian) but that’s OK, I’ve always been real good at not throwing the baby out with the bath water.

Again, my sincerest appreciation for your body of content.

Please keep it up.

Yours,
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“What’s going to happen as they get older?”

Find the Flow
Find the Flow

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Hi Michael,

I liked your comments in Episode 480 very much.

I actually have a lot of sympathy for Millennials (and many non-Millennials too), who have grown-up-with (adopted) a life where they allow “interruption” and “distraction” via the mobile phone at any time & place.

How will these people find what Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi calls ‘Flow’, which he describes as a state of mental focus, where people are most happy? I believe it’s impossible, with the never-ending interruptions from the mobile phone. What’s going to happen as they get older?

Thanks for your great podcast!

Best Wishes,
[Name]
Minneapolis, MN

It’s a problem for them, but for everyone.

People are picking tough directions.


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“It was amazing and very powerful…”

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Hi Michael,

Just tuned in to your channel and listened to your Ep 476. It was amazing and very powerful. Thank you for sharing your insights. I am a beginner at this and wanted to get started with the basics. If you could provide with with some guidance and reference material, it would of great help to me.

Thanks Again for you making this series.

Tuning in to Ep 477.

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Starting Point
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