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Ep. 288: Frank Curzio & Robin Griffiths Interviews with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Frank Curzio & Robin Griffiths
Frank Curzio & Robin Griffiths

My guests today are Frank Curzio of Stansberry & Associates and Robin Griffiths, the Chief Technical Strategist at ECU and formerly at HSBC.

The topic is markets.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

  • Covel and Curzio discuss how the fundamental guys justify all time highs in the equity market; the Shiller PE ratio; the importance of analyzing interest rates; Warren Buffett recent investments; what the Fed would do if we went down 30% today; why having a low interest rate environment creates a good situation for stocks; being prepared from a risk management perspective; Zero Interest Rate Policy, its effect on equities and bonds, and tail risk; comparing the environment today to the 1987 crash; hypothetical situations surrounding the S&P 500; exit strategies; and the 24-hour news cycle.
  • Covel and Griffiths discuss how to use fundamentals in an age when interest rates are artificially controlled; Griffiths’ history as a mechanical engineer and how he found his way into trading and technical analysis; regression analysis; Elliott Wave and cycles; the idea of whipsaws; geopolitical risks; China, India, and the rise of Asia; not trading off of geopolitical fundamental information; how Griffiths came to the conclusion that the efficient market hypothesis and much of what the mutual fund industry depends on doesn’t hold water; spikes and why people in 2014 think that all spikes are gone; Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds by Charles Mackay and the cyclical nature of booms and busts; and virtual currencies.

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Ep. 287: Toby Crabel Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Toby Crabel
Toby Crabel

My guest today is Toby Crabel, a tennis player who is now a commodities trader. In 2005, the Financial Times called Crabel “the most well-known trader on the counter-trend side”.

The topic is commodity trading.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

  • Crabel’s history as a pro tennis player
  • Longevity and consistency in tennis and trading
  • Where Crabel stands with the total number of systems he employs
  • The source of Crabel’s profits and the philosophy behind it
  • Price action
  • Winning and losing volatility
  • Why Crabel needs price movement and volume
  • The idea of price shocks and the importance of being aware of them
  • The process of moving from high drawdowns to a much lower drawdown
  • The importance of diversity
  • Early lightbulb moments that informed Crabel’s trading style
  • Crabel’s experience with Victor Niederhoffer
  • How the philosophy of Objectivism has informed Crabel’s life
  • The liquidity of futures markets
  • The importance of persistence

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Ep. 286: Alex Greyserman Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Alex Greyserman
Alex Greyserman

My guest today is Alex Greyserman, Chief Scientist at managed futures firm ISAM. He is also a professor at Columbia University. He is a member of the ISAM Systematic Investment Committee. He has 25 years of experience in the Managed Futures industry, having starting initially as Research Director at Mint Investment Management Co.

The topic is Trend Following.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

  • Idea of young college graduates writing articles about the death of trend following while firms like Greyserman’s continue to have tremendous success
  • Alternatives to thinking only ‘long stocks’
  • Greyserman’s first meeting with Larry Hite and how they have come to have such a career together
  • Why trend following is about more than getting on the right side of the S&P trade
  • The difference between cross-sectional momentum and time series momentum
  • The phrase “crisis alpha” and why trend following does well in times of crisis
  • The cost of not having trend following in your portfolio
  • Benchmarking and diversification
  • Why the worst thing you can do is “trend follow a trend follower”
  • The science of trend following
  • Speculation
  • Trend following your life–not just the markets
  • Dispersion among trend following traders
  • Effect of a higher rate environment

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Ep. 284: Jason Fried Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Jason Fried
Jason Fried

My guest today is Jason Fried, the co-founder and President of 37signals, a privately-held Chicago-based company committed to building the best web-based tools possible with the least number of features necessary.

The topic is his book Rework.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

  • The first dollar Fried made online and other formative experiences
  • Keeping business simple
  • Making something more valuable than the dollars people give you
  • The intimacy of exchanging money
  • The idea of doing less than your competitors to beat them
  • Building an audience
  • The “real world”
  • Why an MBA program might not teach you much about entrepreneurism
  • Corporate structure
  • Focusing on what will not change
  • Zen and the moment of right now
  • Not focusing too far into the future
  • Fried’s experience with Jeff Bezos
  • Idea of improvisation or “winging it” in business

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Ep. 282: Kathryn Kaminski Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Kathryn Kaminski
Kathryn Kaminski

My guest today is Kathryn Kaminski, the deputy managing director the institute for financial research (SIFR) Stockholm Sweden. She’s also a contributor to CME Group. She earned her PhD at the MIT Sloan School of Management. At the MIT Laboratory for Financial Engineering, she conducted research on financial heuristics in collaboration with Professor Andrew W. Lo. Her new book, with Alex Greyserman, is “Trend Following with Managed Futures: The Search for Crisis Alpha.”

The topic is Trend Following.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

  • Survivorship bias
  • Kaminski’s background and upbringing
  • Convergent risk-taking strategies and divergent risk-taking strategies
  • Social networking as an example of risk
  • Apple as an example of convergent/divergent
  • The importance of failure
  • The efficient market hypothesis, the idea that trend following is “voodoo”, and the lack of transparency in trend following
  • Critics of trend following
  • Kaminski’s “ah-ha” moment with trend following
  • Why trend following works in times of crisis
  • The adaptive markets hypothesis
  • Looking at markets like ecologies
  • Divergence and “punctured equilibrium”
  • The process of going back 800 years analyzing trend following
  • The idea of black boxes
  • The acceptance of trend following

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Ep. 281: Vineer Bhansali Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Vineer Bhansali
Vineer Bhansali

My guest today is Vineer Bhansali, the managing director and portfolio manager at PIMCO. His most recent book is “Tail Risk Hedging”. He has 24 years of investment experience and holds a Ph.D. in theoretical particle physics from Harvard University.

The topic is Trend Following.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

  • “Trend Following Through The Rates Cycle”
  • Trend following in the classical sense
  • How trend following started to become part of the discussion at PIMCO
  • Introducing new ideas to PIMCO, corporate culture, and to clients
  • The three hypotheses tested in “Trend Following Through The Rates Cycle”
  • Currency trading and trend following returns
  • Why larger trend following shops may have trouble getting into smaller markets
  • Trend following across a diversified portfolio and classical trend following approaches
  • Connecting Bhansali’s hobbies to the quantitative world
  • Structure and thinking in terms of code
  • Imagining and building simulations
  • Being distribution aware
  • Why being at all-time highs is not the time to feel satisfied

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