Michael Covel speaks with Mark Miller. Miller is a computer scientist at Google. He has done early work in hypertext, and today is heavily involved in digital rights. His conversation with Michael Covel is wide-ranging, and especially interesting as they look to the future–perhaps even a future after Singularity. Covel and Miller discuss property rights; Hernando de Soto; Bitcoin and digital trust; “smart contracts”; why a contract is like a board game; game theory; 3rd World infrastructure; how program code can become a contract; a closer look at “possession is nine-tenths of the law”; whether the Turing Test was just passed; defining the term “singularity”, and the multiple singularities of the past; A.I. and nanotechnology; how Miller’s work relates to markets; the history of hypertext. For more information on Mark Miller, visit erights.org.