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Ep. 741: Daphne Chua Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Daphne Chua
Daphne Chua

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My guest today is Daphne Chua, a certified yoga therapist, movement educator, body worker, Anusara Inspire teacher, E-RYT500 Yoga Alliance Continuing Education Provider (YACEP), and has been running her own embodiment and inquiry-based therapeutic training modules for the last 3 years. She has completed over 2,000 hours of teacher trainings and taught over 3,000 hours in classes, private sessions, special needs yoga, workshops, retreats, and teacher trainings.

The topic is awareness of the mind-body connection.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

  • Yoga therapy
  • Psychology behind yoga
  • Addiction
  • Breath
  • Yoga tool kits
  • Present moment

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Ep. 740: A New Mega Collection with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

A New Mega Collection with Michael Covel
A New Mega Collection with Michael Covel

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Please enjoy my monologue A New Mega Collection with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio. This episode may also include great outside guests from my archive.

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Ep. 739: Peter Borish Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

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My guest today is Peter Borish, the chief strategist of Quad Capital. He is a trading coach, helps recruit new traders and develop the company’s trading strategy. He also is a founding member of the Robin Hood Foundation. The Robin Hood Foundation has made great strides in their charity work and continue to do bigger and better things. Peter believes that the quality of life for those around you is much more important than the material possessions that can be accumulated.

The topic is trading.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

  • Compounding
  • Individual responsibility for retirement
  • Tax rates
  • Robin Hood
  • Paul Tudor Jones
  • High frequency trading
  • Risk management
  • Game theory
  • AI in trading

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“Trend following is not predicting the market…”

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Dear Sir/Madam,

I am curious as to what your thoughts are on this topic. I have recently been reading the book Trend Following by Michael Covel. I think it is an interesting book, detailing some of the successful trend traders and why they were so successful (mostly their down-to-earth simplicity first mentality it seems). However, he makes a number of statements that are difficult for me to agree with. The first is that trend following is not predicting the market, please allow me to explain. If I paraphrase him: “Trend following is not predicting the market because the method simply waits for a trend to occur upwards or downwards, and when it is confirmed via some methodology, you get on the trend and ride it out.” The problem I have with this is the fact that it is simply impossible to invest in the stock market without some degree of prediction. In this situation, a trader follows a trend because he has ‘confirmed’ it. Yet this confirming the trend, which simply means that the trader believes that it is indeed a lasting trend, is still nothing but predicting that it is indeed a trend. For example, if a trader gets on a trend when a stock has risen from $80 to $100, if he is in no way predicting the market, there is also no way to say if this trend will continue or not. There are two options, yes or no, and because the trader makes ‘no predictions’ the odds are simply even. However, the trader expects the trend to continue, based on the fact that the trend has started and often continues when it starts in a particular fashion. That is still a prediction. Then why is it that Michael Covel and other trend traders so often make the statement that they don’t predict the markets, they just ‘follow’ the markets, when you only follow someone or something when you have an idea of where it is going?

Furthermore, the statement that the stock market is a zero sum game seems flawed. The overall economy sees an average growth of around 1.9% yearly. That means that if I were to pick 100 random stocks from every sector one year and simply wait it out, I would expect to see a portfolio growth of around 1.9%, following the average economy. However, if the stock market is a zero sum game, I would expect to see a growth of exactly 0%, because on average, I would lose as much as I would win. Is this because inflation is also accounted for in the book? If so, it is not made clear.

I would like to make clear I am in no way trying to undermine the method of trend following, I am simply eager to learn. I look forward to hearing your opinion on the subject.

Sincerely,
[Name]

Futures markets are zero sum. And you don’t trend follow one market in isolation. Need a basket of markets and from that basket every year there is no way, no way at all, to predict the yearly winners.


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“I had to find a set of rules that would remove my own stupid self…”

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Hello,

Well, after trying to be the smart guy and beat the markets for many years (and blowing a few accounts) I painfully realized that I am simply not capable finding highs and lows. I needed to change my thinking and go with the markets and not try to hit the highs and lows. That was a huge mental undertaking for me, since I am a “contrarian” by nature.

It took me a good 3-4 years to find a strategy that both suited my trading style but also a strategy that I could translate into absolute rules. I don’t use EAs or other automated trading, but I needed a set of rules that I could follow that would remove my own “biases” and discretionary way of trading. Simply put, I was losing all faith in my own abilities as a trader and I had to find a set of rules that would remove my “own stupid self”. Since then I haven’t really looked back. I am actually stunned by the simplicity and at first I couldn’t believe how well this works. It is actually a matter of “leaving your brain” at the door. If I only had done this exercise 20 years ago…

My strategy; I trade price trends on the weekly timeframe, with the 4HR for entry/exit, SMA100 is my reference and entry of long/short. I have the weekly pivots plotted. Pivots serve as moving SL when price moves too far away from the SMA100, and also as Support/Resistance for new/multiple positions in the same (weekly) wave. Initial SL 2 x ATR, no TP. Position size is 2% of free equity. I trade FX, Indices and Equities, all CFDs.

I am originally from Norway, but I moved to a warmer and better suited place three years ago. I trade full time.

Best Regards,
[Name]

Thanks for the feedback, but I would exit the day trading. Day trading as a trend follower? Not seen that evidence.


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“Interesting piece of research… looking at various investment strategies going back to 1800.”

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Hey Michael:

Love your contributions to Trend Following – Big Fan!

Interesting piece of research recently by a Dutch investment house looking at various investment strategies going back to 1800.
Included periods of 2 World Wars, Multiple Recessions and down turns.

Result:

Number 1 Strategy: Trend Following
Number 2 Strategy: Carry Trade
Number 3 Strategy: Seasonality

I am fully aware that I don’t need to convince you of the benefit of Trend Following but its nice to have definitive Research over extended periods. Clearly we are on the Right Path when it comes to Investing!!

Link to information below: here.

Maybe be nice to interview one of the Researchers in future podcast?

Take Care,
[Name]

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