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“It’s never different…”

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Hi Mike,

I apologize in advance for this long email but I felt the need to write to you and tell you that you are right about everything. Well, not everything in general, but everything about trend following. Of course, you know this. So why do I bring it up? Well, I had a couple of hard lessons last year and into this one.

Even though I read your books and others, took your course, listened to hundreds of podcasts and had the examples of history, I still didn’t “get it” fully. I guess I’m the kind of person who has to experience things for himself before finally understanding it. I naively thought I was immune to the psychological traps that plague other trader/investors. I was wrong.

The first lesson was in cryptocurrency. Now, I did make some profit on Bitcoin Cash and broke even on Bitcoin. However, I lost money in all the alt coins I owned. Why? I did trend follow these but I didn’t honor my stops. I was swayed by the HODL mindset. I told myself that it was a new asset class, that “this time is different”. Where have I heard that before? Hmm…

Lesson learned: It’s never different. New asset classes are subject to the same market forces as any other. Trend follow it.

The 2nd lesson was in a private equity investment I made about 3 years ago. It went public a year ago and I started to trend-follow it. In a short amount of time, it shot up to $11 but then started to decline. It finally hit my stop at around $9 and I sold. But, I didn’t sell it all. Only 1/10th of my holdings. You see, I had a target of $13 and I figured it would go back up. After all, I was an early investor and knew more about the company than the general public. You can guess what happened after that.

The stock slid down over the course of the year and, looking back at the chart now, made a perfect, textbook example of a long-term downtrend. It had its rallies and I sold at different points but I never could bring myself to sell it all. I hung on to the idea that it would bounce back. After all, I was with it from the beginning. I knew the company and the industry. What could go wrong?

I sold my last remaining shares yesterday at breakeven. Looking back, I didn’t do too bad. I more than doubled, almost tripled my money. But I could have made so much more if I had sold it all when my first stop was hit. I beat myself up every day for it.

Lesson learned: No matter how much you know about or are involved with a company, you never know more than the market. The market is always right. Trend follow it.

I can only hope that I’ve learned my lessons now and that I still have time to apply them. I take great inspiration from Tom Basso though. He had a hard lesson in silver, but got past it. Now he’s still trading in retirement.

Thanks for your continued teachings in this way of trading (and even a way of life) through your books and podcasts.

I wish for you a long life full of health, wealth and happiness.

All the best,

T.

Thanks!


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“Break even time or recovery time becomes too long to be patient…”

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Dear Sir:

My biggest challenges are:

1. Whenever the trend changes, pull back or correction, it becomes too much and losses increase. I keep watching my losses. Break even time or recovery time becomes too long to be patient and I book losses 6-7 times out of 10 in swing trading.

2. I want to do intra-day trading on margin, but I’ve never started as I fear losing money due to a sudden change in trend.

Regards,
S.

That’s two very bad strategies.

Keep doing those two and one year from now?

More losses.

Have you considered trend following?


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“I’m hoping you may be able to shed some light on this attitude towards trend following…”

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Hi,

I have read your book ‘Trend Following’ a number of times and also have read the ‘The Complete Turtle Trader.’

I am sold on trading this way. After many false starts in trading it is the only way I will ever trade because it’s the only way that makes any sense.

Having said that, I then start to have a look around for some proprietary trading firms in the U.K. who may allow me to trend follow with their funds. What I find are day traders and their insistence on frankly ludicrous approaches to the markets. Insane draw down limits which make me wonder how on Earth they can ever make money.

What gives in your opinion? None of it makes a bit of sense. The superior returns are there to see. Don’t these prop firms want to make money?

I’m hoping you may be able to shed some light on this attitude towards trend following. It frustrates and baffles me.

Many Thanks,

R.

Day trading is bullshit.

It’s not trend following.

Now what?


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“Once I adopted a more humble attitude and started to respect the trends, things got better…”

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The biggest challenge I have faced is switching from a “buy & hold, averaging down” to a “cut my losses quick and extend my gains” approach. This is very hard for fundamental-based portfolio managers, because we tend to have the illusion that we know stuff. “O know the company”. “This negative price action doesn’t make sense, so I will take advantage of this drop to increase my position”.

Once I adopted a more humble attitude and started to respect the trends, things got better. But I’m still doing very basic, intuitive stuff. There is still a long way to go.

Regards,
Fabio

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Ep. 846: When Mass Panic Rolls Out You Need A Plan with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Episode 846 When Mass Panic Rolls Out You Need A Plan with Michael Covel

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“The biggest challenge I have in trading is discipline…”

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Dear Michael,

The biggest challenge I have in trading is discipline.

Because I don’t have a strategy that works, I hop from strategy to strategy and am unable to make any profit.

If I know there is a proven strategy that will work, I can be patient to manage it.

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“I’m 63 years old and have been in the financial services business for 27 years…”

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Good Morning Mr. Covel,

I currently have a very simple trend-following algorithm and have had some success with it. I’m 63 years old and have been in the financial services business for 27 years. I started out with Dean Witter, which became Morgan Stanley. They never told us when to sell, just buy the new product, new mutual fund, and hold on forever. My clients got crushed during the dot com crash. It was brutal, not just for my clients, but for my career as well. I was fortunate to meet a computer programmer who was building a trend-following algorithm. We’ve updated it over the past 15 years, but it’s still a simple program that’s based on weekly volatility. I’m looking forward to learning more and becoming more successful in understanding and trading the trends.

Thank you again.

Best regards,

Tom M.

Thanks Tom. Some good places to start: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.


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