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Ep. 1371: The Performance Perspective with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Episode 1371
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“Just avoiding being stupid goes a long way in the game…”

Most people come to the market trying to be brilliant.

They watch CNBC. They memorize P/E ratios. They try to outsmart the Fed, outguess the earnings report, and predict the unpredictable. They want to be the smartest guy in the room.

But Charlie Munger, the late vice-chairman of Berkshire Hathaway, had a different approach. He didn’t try to be brilliant. He just tried to be consistently not stupid. He had a mental model for this. He called it:

“Invert, always invert.”

Munger borrowed this from the German mathematician Carl Jacobi. The idea is simple: Many hard problems are best solved backwards.

If you want to help India, don’t ask, “How can I help India?” Ask instead: “What is doing the worst damage to India? And how do I stop it?”

If you want to be a successful investor, don’t ask, “How do I make a million dollars?” Ask instead: “What would cause me to lose all my money?”

Then… simply don’t do that.

The Ultimate Inversion

Munger was a value investor, but his logic is the exact mathematical foundation of Trend Following.

Trend following is the only strategy that fully embraces inversion. We flip the standard Wall Street model on its head.

The “Great Pretenders” on Wall Street are obsessed with the offense. They are obsessed with being right. They ask: “What stock is going to go up?”

Trend followers invert the question. We are obsessed with the defense. We ask: “What happens if I am wrong?”

Here is how the Trend Following mindset applies Munger’s inversion:

1. Invert the Entry (Don’t buy low) The crowd tries to buy low. They see a falling price and think, “It’s a bargain.” They are trying to be smart. They think they know something the market doesn’t. Inversion: We buy high. If a price is hitting 52-week highs, we don’t ask why. We assume the market is smarter than we are. We buy strength.

2. Invert the Exit (Don’t target profit) The amateur enters a trade dreaming about the Lamborghini. They have a profit target in mind. Inversion: The pro enters a trade thinking about the stop-loss. We define the point of failure before we ever put a dime at risk. Munger famously said: “All I want to know is where I’m going to die, so I’ll never go there.” That is what a stop-loss is. It is knowing where you will die, and making sure you get out before you do.

3. Invert the Knowledge (Don’t read the news) The crowd consumes hours of news, trying to find the “reason” for a move. Inversion: We ignore the “why.” We only look at the “what.” Price is the only truth. If the price is moving, the reason doesn’t matter.

The Genius of “Not Stupid”

Munger said, “It is remarkable how much long-term advantage people like us have gotten by trying to be consistently not stupid, instead of trying to be very intelligent.”

Trying to predict the future is stupid. Trying to pick tops and bottoms is stupid. Thinking you know more than the collective wisdom of the market is stupid.

Trend following admits we don’t know the future. It admits we can’t predict.

By admitting we aren’t geniuses, we protect our downside. We cut our losers. We ride our winners. We survive.

And in this game, survival is the only thing that matters.

Invert your thinking. Stop trying to be smart. Start following the trend.

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Hi Michael,

This is a great essay! Been listening to you for years. Just avoiding being stupid goes a long way in the game.

Cheers!

Thanks!


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Hi Mr. Covel,

Merry Christmas!

Hope you are doing well.

I am currently reading your book, Complete Turtle Trader. I am in chapter 5. I stopped just to write this email. I want to applaud you for the research and dedication you have put in. I am writing this to thank you for writing the book.

I had contacted you about the Black Friday discount, but didn’t follow through because of a lack of funds. However, I am making progress slowly and will join your training soon. I am slowly building my capital.

Thanks again.

Regards,
Vishal G.

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Hi Michael,

Here are some thoughts/ideas:

Point #1: “No-entry if next candle immediately closes back above the rejection candle midpoint.”

My answer / question: If this is true, could we then expect a trend expansion. A continuation of the expansion of a new or existing trend. My thoughts are a break above what I would have had as a stop loss could now be an entry in the opposite direction for the same play, potentially a confirmed reversal to exit that opposite position.

Point #2: Only take the short if at least one is true:

Band width isn’t expanding hard

BB width is flat or contracting over the last 5–10 bars (volatility not exploding).

Price is not riding the upper band

You don’t want 3–5 consecutive closes hugging the upper band (that’s trend behavior).

Distance-from-mean is “stretched”

Close is outside the upper band AND the candle range is above average (e.g., > 1.2× ATR(14)).

If none of these are true, skip. That’s usually where mean reversion gets murdered.

My answer / question: I think Point #2 brings me close to Point #1. Please let me know your thoughts. So when mean reversion gets murdered, the primary suspect is trend following?

Answer:

This is a very good line of thinking, and you’re circling something important that many traders never quite articulate.

Short answer up front:

Yes — what you’re describing in Point #1 is exactly how failed mean-reversion morphs into trend expansion.

Yes — Point #2 and Point #1 are tightly linked; they are essentially two lenses looking at the same regime shift.

And yes again — when mean reversion “gets murdered,” the primary suspect is trend initiation or trend continuation, not randomness.

Now let’s slow this down and really nail it.

Comment:

The highlighted part is what struck me when having this chat with chat-bot. I am thinking chat-bot has a bias to trend-following. But I’m not sure, maybe chat-bot is winding me up.

A friend of mine, who I love, calls me up and says Trump said this / that – concerned about whether the market is going up or down. I say I don’t watch TV or follow news feeds my information comes from what you’re telling me now.

So I ask, when Trump said that (negative news) and you saw the market rising, and it’s been rising for last few weeks. The negative news and rising markets don’t matter.

Michael, I have consulted chat-bots on this matter, and they cannot help.

Can you please do what chat-bots cannot do and explain this to me and my friend?

2026 should be the year of clarity, maybe a spiritual awakening 🙂

Thanks.

Aaron H.

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Hi Michael,

Were you the speaker on stage, in Dallas TX back in 2005 at a “Zig Ziggler” seminar?

I knew absolutely nothing about the markets or trend following. A speaker (with Investools) got on stage at an intermission & presented a trend following method. I bought it and was hooked. I have been a student of the markets ever since.

I did not come across you until 2020 & I have often wondered if that was you, back in the day.

Happy New Year. By the way, I have listened to (almost) every podcast. Thanks for all your work.

Dean

Thanks!


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