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Trading Numbers, Not Markets

An excerpt from my book The Complete TurtleTrader:

Richard Dennis’s friend Tom Willis had learned long ago from Dennis why price, the philosophical underpinning of Donchian’s rule, was the only true metric to trust. He said, “Everything known is reflected in the price. I could never hope to compete with Cargill [today the world’s second-largest private corporation, with $70 billion in revenues for 2005], who has soybean agents scouring the globe knowing everything there is to know about soybeans and funneling the information up to their trading headquarters.” Willis added [when talking about trend followers], “They don’t know anything about bonds. They don’t know anything about the currencies. I don’t either, but I’ve made a lot of money trading them. They’re just numbers. Corn is a little different than bonds, but not different enough that I’d have to trade them differently. Some of these guys I read about have a different system for each [market]. That’s absurd. We’re trading mob psychology. We’re not trading corn, soybeans, or S&P’s. We’re trading numbers.”


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Timeless Trend Trading Wisdom

In the 1954 work ‘New Blueprints for Gains in Stocks and Grains’ William Dunnigan stated:

“We think that “forecasting” should be thought of in the light of measuring the direction of today’s trend and then turning to the Law of Inertia (momentum) for assurance that probabilities favor the continuation of that trend for an unknown period of time into the future. This is trend following, and it does not require us to don the garment of the mystic and look into the crystal balls of the future…Let us believe that it is possible to profit through economic changes by following today’s trend, as it is revealed statistically day-by-day, week-by-week, or month-by-month. In doing this we should entertain no preconceived notions as to whether business is going to boom or bust, or whether the Dow-Jones Industrial Average is going to 500 or 50. We will merely chart our course and steer our ship in the direction of the prevailing wind. When the economic weather changes, we will change our course with it and will not try to forecast the future time or place at which the wind will change.”


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Thomas Stridsman on Trend Following Trading

A good article on trend following trading (PDF):

“…being a systematic trend follower also induces some pain from time to time, but overall results move slowly in the right direction. Trend followers need to learn to sit on their hands from time to time, and other times endure the pain from what seems like a never-ending string of whipsaw trades. That just comes with the style.”

More.


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The Turtle Cut Back Memo

People fond of the TurtleTrader story will like this memo (image) from back in the day. It became a core piece of my book “The Complete TurtleTrader.” In fact, that memo was first revealed in my book.


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Bernard Drury: Trend Following Pro Featured in Covel’s Little Book of Trading

Bernard Drury
Bernard Drury

I had the opportunity to spend time with and interview trend follower Bernard Drury a few years back. Drury has done quite well as a trend trader: (PDF).

Note: Drury also is a chapter in my Little Book of Trading here.


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BlueCrest Trend Trading

An interesting read (PDF). As an associate of mine said:

On third page, read the two paragraphs that starts with “A big part…” The last line in the second paragraph is perfect.

Respect the price action!


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Origins of Trend Following

An excerpt about trend following origins from here:

One reason for this paucity of early information [about trend following] is suggested by the ‘following’ part of the term ‘trend following.’ The implication is one of passivity, of reaction, rather than of bold, assertive action — and human nature shows a distinct preference for the latter. Also, trend following appears to be too simple an idea to be taken seriously. Indeed, simple ideas can take a very long time to be accepted – think of the concept of a negative number, or of zero: simple to us, but problematic to our ancestors.

Great point.


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