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Ep. 132: Emotional Rescue with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Emotional Rescue with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio
Emotional Rescue with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Please enjoy my monologue Emotional Rescue with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio. This episode may also include great outside guests from my archive.

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Ep. 126: James Altucher Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

James Altucher
James Altucher

My guest today is James Altucher, an American hedge-fund manager, author, podcaster, and entrepreneur who has founded and cofounded over 20 companies. He has published 20 books and is a contributor to publications including The Financial Times, The Wall Street Journal, TechCrunch, and The Huffington Post.

The topic is his book Choose Yourself!

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

  • The new book and why all the rules we thought of as normal (“The banks will always finance my house”, “The stock market will always go up”, “The big corporations will always hire me”, “If I have a college degree, there will always be a job for me”) are imaginary
  • Why a good trader trades their own self first, and the importance of choosing yourself and making a consistent inner life
  • The need to become an entrepreneur and artist in today’s climate, and why you might be looking down the barrel of a career in temp staffing if you don’t
  • The collapse of the middle class and 9-5 “jobs” as we know them
  • The importance of doing the un-obvious
  • Why you’re only as valuable as your network
  • The need to exercise your idea muscle
  • Sunk costs and opportunity costs
  • Breaking the cycle of consumerism, buying memories and not buying objects
  • Commitment bias
  • Finding a career at 27, Stan Lee of Marvel Comics, endurance, and the importance of doing something for yourself today
  • David Gilmour of Fiji Water and the benefits of adventure
  • Medication, lifestyle choices, and the necessity of good sleep hygiene
  • The need to be an artist where your life is the canvas

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Cold Truth About Emotional Investing

Consider an excerpt:

WSJ: What do you mean by emotional finance?

PROF. TUCKETT: What we try to do in emotional finance is start with the fact that the future is unknowable. The key thing about uncertainty is that it inevitably generates feelings. Because it matters to you, because your money’s on the line, so to speak, you’re bound to feel emotionally engaged.

WSJ: Some people think pros are more rational than individual investors.

PROF. TAFFLER: Although most of the fund managers we interviewed saw part of their particular competitive advantage as remaining, as they described it, unemotional or rational, in practice they were just as emotional as anyone else when they started to talk about the stocks they had invested in. There were lots of examples where they referred to them almost as if they were lovers.

If you’re entering into an emotional relationship with a stock, an asset or a company that can let you down, this leads to anxiety, which is often not consciously acknowledged. But it’s there, bubbling beneath the surface.

WSJ: The fund managers told stories about their investments. What was the role you found that storytelling played in their decision making?

PROF. TUCKETT: They have to feel conviction. With a narrative you can join up different facts with emotions, and that creates a sense of conviction, and that is absolutely essential for action. So we aren’t saying “Oh, they’re only storytellers.” We’re saying you need to tell a story.

PROF. TAFFLER: One of the fund managers talked about investing in a fast-food company, how he visited the restaurants and looked at what people were ordering. The story was about seeing something nobody else could see, and that feeling gave him the confidence to invest.

WSJ: Could you talk about what investors expect from fund managers and what effect that has on the fund managers?

PROF. TAFFLER: A very important insight in emotional finance is the concept of the fantastic object. It’s like Aladdin’s lamp, which you polish and can have anything you want. In unconscious terms this is ultimately what we are all looking for.

The whole environment is problematic, because fund managers are expected to outperform on a continuous basis, in competition with other equally able and well-resourced managers, and of course not everyone can do this. So actually the fund managers are required to be fantastic objects, to earn continuous superior returns at low risk. This is, of course, only possible in fantasy, not reality.

To be able to do this, fund managers have to be able to believe they can find fantastic objects themselves, stocks with which they can have special relationships and which are going to outperform with minimal risk.

WSJ: With individual investors, I suppose it’s about managing the uncertainty of putting their money into the markets—it helps if they’ve got this idea of the star manager who can handle it all for them.

PROF. TAFFLER: Yes. In emotional-finance terms an important part of the fund manager’s job is to defeat uncertainty. In a sense we’ve got an institutional structure which seeks to deny that ultimately we’re all working in an environment that is inherently unpredictable.

WSJ: What can individual investors learn from your research?

PROF. TAFFLER: I’ve done separate research on individual investors, and of course they have all these same feelings writ large. You need to recognize that cognition and emotion go together; you can’t have one without the other. If you were coldly unemotional, which is of course not possible, then you wouldn’t actually be able to generate the conviction necessary to take the risk of investing.

Sums up many reasons why trend following excels.


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Interview with Dan Ariely: The Upside Of Irrationality

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Michael, I heard on the podcast you are visiting my adopted city of Beijing where I have lived for the past 8 years. If you need anything while there, places to go eat, see, my friend has great Israeli restaurant there etc. Whatever you need let me know. My local China mobile number is below. We are out of town so can not meet but can help. Glad you enjoy Asia. I moved there from Wall Street about 8 years ago. Life never been the same ever since. Also, you will love this interview. Full link below. Best of luck with CLSA.

Miguel: Continuing from this definition of decision making you write about the Lancelot story where he’s a fighter and claims that the key to fighting well is not worrying about the outcome but rather focusing on having perfect concentration (minimal stress). How can you relate this story to decision making?

Dan: What is interesting about this story is that by not valuing his life Lancelot became much more rational in a standard way. Basically, the way we think about it is that emotion makes people irrational. Not bad necessarily, but irrational, and if you can disassociate yourself from your emotions you can make more rational decisions. That is exactly what Lancelot was able to do-So during a sword-fight where you want to fight to the best of your ability you don’t want any stress, and to do so you don’t want to think about anything besides the immediate fight. By detaching yourself from emotions you are able to do that.

Thanks for the nice words and words of wisdom!


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Stark Divide for the Mentality Between Success and Failure


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Deeper Issues At Play for Day Traders

Ed Seykota on day trading: “Traders use it medicinally as distraction from deeper issues.”


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How Does One Get to Be a Trend Following Trader? A Great One?

Consider wisdom from author Seth Godin:

Wouldn’t it be great to be gifted? In fact…It turns out that choices lead to habits. Habits become talents. Talents are labeled gifts. You’re not born this way, you get this way.

Start. Find an edge somewhere (anywhere) and start.


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