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What Value Does a Trader Bring to the Market?

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Hi Michael, I am enjoying your podcasts tremendously, and have started to listen to them all the way back one by one … since outset. I came across one of your monologs where you talks about money as means of exchange, people exchanging value. I am familiar with this definition. I am curious about your opinion about trading with that regard, meaning, what value does a trader brings? What is the role of the trader in that respect?

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[Name]

Ayn Rand said it best:

Happiness is not to be achieved at the command of emotional whims. Happiness is not the satisfaction of whatever irrational wishes you might blindly attempt to indulge. Happiness is a state of non-contradictory joy—a joy without penalty or guilt, a joy that does not clash with any of your values and does not work for your own destruction, not the joy of escaping from your mind, but of using your mind’s fullest power, not the joy of faking reality, but of achieving values that are real, not the joy of a drunkard, but of a producer. Happiness is possible only to a rational man, the man who desires nothing but rational goals, seeks nothing but rational values and finds his joy in nothing but rational actions.

Just as I support my life, neither by robbery nor alms, but by my own effort, so I do not seek to derive my happiness from the injury of the favor of others, but earn it by my own achievement. Just as I do not consider the pleasure of others as the goal of my life, so I do not consider my pleasure as the goal of the lives of others. Just as there are no contradictions in my values and no conflicts among my desires—so there are no victims and no conflicts of interest among rational men, men who do not desire the unearned and do not view one another with a cannibal’s lust, men who neither make sacrifices nor accept them.

The symbol of all relationships among such men, the moral symbol of respect for human beings, is the trader. We, who live by values, not by loot are traders, both in manner and spirit. A trader is a man who earns what he gets and does not give or take the undeserved. A trader does not ask to be paid for his failures, nor does he ask to be loved for his flaws. A trader does not squander his body as fodder, or his soul as alms. Just as he does not give his work except in trade for material values, so he does not give the values of his spirit—his love, his friendship, his esteem—except in payment and in trade for human virtue, in payment for his own selfish pleasure, which he receives from men he can respect. The mystic parasites who have, throughout the ages, reviled the trader and held him in contempt, while honoring the beggars and the looters, have known the secret motive of the sneers: a trader is the entity they dread—a man of justice.


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Trend Following Little League: Spreading the Word

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Was in Ashburn [Virginia] for a youth hockey game this morning and one of the Reston [Virginia] players walked out of the locker room with a TrendFollowing.com Little League T-shirt on and I had to do a double take. Thinking, wait I have seen that T-shirt before! LOVE that small world stuff!

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“David Stockman Everyone Should Hear It”

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Really enjoyed your interview with David Stockman. EVERYONE should hear it.

What struck you about David’s episode in particular?

What struck me: an entirely believable and rational explanation for world events that followed the slaughter of WW1. I have not read his book, but have now ordered it and look forward to hearing his take on the causes of that horrible and horribly unnecessary conflagration (WW1). I believe it was bankers that were at the root of it, as I believe they have been at the root of all wars since. A horrible, horrible bunch of psychopaths.

And the method by which bankers wreak their havoc is through fiat money, its issuance and their control of interest rates. They have to keep the world ignorant of this, which they do by control of the media and what is taught at universities (this they achieve by financing university chairs and appointing people that will not teach what is really going on in the world of finance).

Hopefully the major events presently taking place will lead to profound changes. In the meantime we rely on brave and honest people like you and David Stockman to do your profoundly important work of educating the ignorant.

Very best wishes,
[Name]

Thanks.


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Trend Following from Quebec

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Let me just thank you from the bottom of my heart for making all this information available to the public. I’m a fairly young guy from a French speaking weird part of this world called Quebec. Money here is seen very negatively and for a youngster to breakout and reach for trading success is quite unusual. Thanks to you I was able to wrap my arms around trend following at a very young age. Everything I did after reading your books was done in a way to connect more and more with trend following. My entire mind is now being reprogrammed slowly with time and effort. Not only have I read everything available on the subject but I also made it mine by taking time to understand it…I mean understand. It’s been 3 years now and I think it’s time for me to give grace to those who showed a path worth the taking. You, Van Tharp, Ed Seykota, Charles Faulkner, Tom Basso and many others have carved my mind with your writings.

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31 years old, Canada

You are welcome.


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Starting Point: Trend Following Suggestions

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Hello Michael! Honestly thank you so much for this opportunity, unfortunately I am 21 and do not have enough money to take you up on this offer. I will most definitely get both of your books. Your podcasts usually get me to laugh! You are a true bad ass as well. If you could suggest any books to me (the more the better) that I can also read to start my mastery of being a trader I would appreciate that. Thanks in advance.

Sincerly,
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Go: 1, 2, 3, 4.

That list should keep you busy.


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Trend Following and Tim Ferriss Feedback

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Hi Michael, I am a trend following trader and entrepreneur based in [City] and [City]. I have to tell you that you have become a mentor to me even though we haven’t met. You have helped give me the tools, conviction and confidence to believe in trend following and put it into practice. Admittedly it took me a long time to fight through the noise, particularly because I spent 10 years on an institutional equity desk in NY and Toronto. Ironically a traditional commission based institutional broker/investment bank is the absolute worst place to gain confidence as a trend following trader. The brokerage house is all about “the story” and predicting the future never even touching risk management, position sizing or exit strategies. I first bought your TurtleTrader product around 2000 after devouring the website and wanting more, but I was 26 and on my way up the corporate ladder at Merrill Lynch. My ego always got in the way and I didn’t have enough quiet time to think and read and gain the confidence that is so critical. I also was still searching for the “holy grail” not knowing I’d already found it.

Years later I picked up my study of trend following again after rereading Reminiscences of a Stock Operator. I then read your books and then ordered your current product. I now turn to the podcasts when I want ideas refreshed or motivation and I look forward to hearing your interviews.

This message could not have asked for a better messenger Michael. You kick ass with your podcasts. You are honest and direct and even funny at times. I’ve even got my gf to listen to a few. The episode with Vernon Smith was particularly powerful. Putting this out there for free is mind blowing and I’m very grateful to you for putting out such an incredible body of work. You are affecting people’s lives and I thank you for affecting mine.

Okay, enough smoke up your ass.

Tim Ferriss should be on your podcast and/or you should be on his. In his most recent episode (63), he talks about his investing style toward the end and why he is scared to invest in public markets. He can’t deal with the ups and downs of staring at rising and falling equity so he only invests in startups. What struck me is that he is basically following a trend following risk model in his angel investing. He accepts that less than 50% will be winners and diversifies with the assumption that the winners will more than pay for the losers. Considering Tim’s expertise is in breaking down and mastering skills that have scientific and mathematical track records it seems to me that he would be interested in your work. I find it hard to imagine why anyone who wants to make money in the markets wouldn’t be interested in your work.

Thank you very much,
[Name]

Thanks for the feedback!


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