An excerpt of an interview with Art Collins and Richard Dennis follows. First the question from Collins and then the answer from Dennis:
Q. How hands on are you behind the programmers? Are you standing behind them explaining exactly what you want optimized, etc?
A. I spend most of my time talking to programmers and waiting for results. I’ve been working with most of these people for 20 years so I’m able to get into that intermediate zone between computer-ese and real English. I call them up and say here’s the idea in English. Here’s my idea of how it would go in the program, but you’re the guys who are going to have to decide that ultimately. It’s actually quite an adventure because a good programmer will get the first iteration wrong half the time.