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Starting Out: One Man’s Story

An excerpt from my book:

Even though he loved his job in the markets, David Druz soon entered medical school to hedge his bets. Medicine was interesting to him, but he was 100 percent fascinated with the markets. Did he have lots of money? No. The only money he had was $5,000 in stock that his father had given him. Druz cashed that out and put it into his account. At that same time the brokerage firm offered him a job, a full-time job to quit medical school and go work for them. They offered Druz $50,000 to start. That was really good money in the 1970s. A slightly drunk friend told him, “Dave, don’t take that job. You can be a really good trader, but if you take that job, you’ll never be a great trader. You’ve got to get a nest egg for security. You don’t want to trade with scared money. Finish medical school, be a doctor, and then you’ll be a great trader.” Does that make sense to you? Maybe not at first blush, but it was the wisest piece of information anyone ever told Druz. He has since seen many people over the years trading with scared money—meaning they would make decisions on the value of the money to them (read: emotional decisions about a new car, suit, or wife), and not follow the exact rules of their trading plan. “Don’t quit your day job” is another critical success lesson—write it down and tape it over your desk. Druz took his $5,000 and started to trade. He wasn’t very good at first, and his account dropped down to around $1,500. At that point he had hit rock bottom and trading success was beginning to move out of sight. He then received a message from his brokerage firm, “You got a fill on your trade.” Druz said, “I don’t have any orders in. I’m out of business.” The brokerage replied, “No, you had a ‘Good Til Cancelled’ order (GTC) in and it is ‘limit up’.” Druz was back in business! The universe apparently would not allow him to quit—he truly believed that. You too might think sometimes, “If I only had one more chance,” but when the next opportunity or chance does come around again you have to be willing to get in the game and play again—without thinking about your negative first experience. Second chances are telling you something. Heed their advice.


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Ep. 259: Bucky Isaacson Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Bucky Isaacson
Bucky Isaacson

My guest today is Bucky Isaacson, one of the early pioneers of managed futures. In 1969, he helped to develop one of the first computerized trading systems. He’s been involved in the managed futures industry ever since, particularly in Asia and the US.

The topic is managed futures.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

  • Fractured state of conferences these days
  • What it was like to be involved with a group developing a computerized trading system in 1969
  • Being with one of the earliest incarnations of a managed futures firm
  • Trading attitudes
  • Marketing and doing business in Asia
  • Differences in business practices between Asian countries
  • Refco, MF Global, PFG and other aberrations that have damaged the Chicago futures brand
  • Madoff as a marketer
  • Raising the initial capital to start a trading venture
  • How to differentiate yourself from a marketing perspective
  • Growth in the managed futures industry

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Expectation Understanding

An example from my book:


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Think like that?


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Price Action is the Only Action… Don’t Get Distracted

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Hi Michael. Dan in Boston here, hope you are well. I’ve been devouring your podcast after I heard you on the Stansberry podcast. Thanks so much for sharing all the info / state of mind, it’s F%$ing awesome!

Question for you regarding dividends. Will you ever hold a stock that’s trending downward because it’s throwing off solid dividends? I know you can’t talk individual stocks (assuming you can’t) so I’ll just say I bought a BDC that’s throwing off a monthly dividend, annual rate is over approx 12%. I’ve got a few other BDCs all throwing off similar dividends which are generally trading sideways but I’m up on a couple of them. Seems like they are a hidden jewel that nobody cares about. I bought them after the were dis-included from the Russell 2000 ETFs so I got ‘em at rock bottom prices.

I bought the one I’m referring to before I discovered and began to knuckle down into trend following. It’s trending downward but very slowly. My technical indicators are obviously negative but they aren’t screaming toward the bottom, just very slowly shaving off a few cents per day. I may of course hit my stop, however it’s only about 15 cents shy of my buy price, and the dividend is keeping me slightly ahead and reinvesting it I’m still in the green. I’m adjusting my stops to reflect that as well, so either way if I stop out I’m not gonna get hurt too badly, if at all.

Question is do you ever factor dividends into your trend following? I probably answered my own question as I’m still making money on the stock, but would love to have your feedback.

Keep up the great work man, I just finished chapter one of the Little Book of Trend Following and I’m sure within the next few months I will read all your books. I too believe people are sheep and freeloading off the system, I’m an entrepreneur anyway, so trend following is a natural extension of my life.

Cheers
Dan

Thanks Dan for the nice words! Let me keep it simple–judge the trade by price action always (not dividends). Holding onto a losing stock because it is spinning off a dividend is not trend following. Perhaps, the math works and it is ok for your situation, but it’s just not trend following.


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Risk, Reward and Uncertainty

Trend followers understand that life is a balance of risk and reward. If you want the big rewards, take the big risks. If you want average rewards and an average life, take average risks. Charles Sanford gave a commencement address that is timeless. It said in part:

“From an early age, we are all conditioned by our families, our schools, and virtually every other shaping force in our society to avoid risk. To take risks is inadvisable; to play it safe is the counsel we are accustomed both to receiving and to passing on. In the conventional wisdom, risk is asymmetrical: it has only one side, the bad side. In my experience—and all I presume to offer you today is observations drawn on my own experience, which is hardly the wisdom of the ages—in my experience, this conventional view of risk is shortsighted and often simply mistaken. My first observation is that successful people understand that risk, properly conceived, is often highly productive rather than something to avoid. They appreciate that risk is an advantage to be used rather than a pitfall to be skirted. Such people understand that taking calculated risks is quite different from being rash. This view of risk is not only unorthodox, it is paradoxical—the first of several paradoxes which I’m going to present to you today. This one might be encapsulated as follows: Playing it safe is dangerous. Far more often than you would realize, the real risk in life turns out to be the refusal to take a risk.”

Life is fraught with risk. There is no getting away from it. However we try to control the direction of our lives, there are times when we fail. Therefore, we might as well accept that life is a game of chance. If life is a game of chance, to one degree or another, we must be comfortable with assessing odds in the face of risk.


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