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Ep. 422: The Pay People Deserve with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Michael Covel

Michael Covel

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Today on Trend Following Radio Michael Covel starts off giving listeners perspective on the feedback he receives. Over the years Michael has received thousands of emails that have created insightful and thought provoking give and take discussions. He reads an email that came in recently on a fairly controversial topic. The listener talked about his disagreement with Yaron Brook in episode 183. He disagreed on the shared viewpoint between Yaron and Michael. The listener’s email also touches on unemployment, minimum wage, and government regulations. The email was extensive and Michael gives his feedback as he makes his way through reading it.

Michael furthers the discussion by moving into reading from an article titled, “The Case Against the Minimum Wage” by Daniel Bier. Daniel says that there is much we may not agree on, but when there are topics that economic professionals do agree on, we should take notice. Economists across the board agree that by raising the minimum wage we will actually increase unemployment. The article’s main premise is that the core value a young person gets from their first job is the life experience rather than the monetary gain. Working with a team, punctuality, and taking direction are just a few fundamental skills that can be taken away from a minimum wage job. These jobs create a track record for an individual that lets them move on to other higher paying jobs.

So many people miss the point: It isn’t about the money, it’s about the experience. Having exposure to minimum wage jobs at a early age has long term effects. Daniel Bier says that it is actually more about politicians trying to feel good than actually doing good. Michael finishes with a quote from Nobel laureate James Buchanan further touching on the ramifications of raising minimum wage.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio:

  • Unemployment
  • Minimum Wage
  • Ayn Rand
  • American economics
  • The seen and unseen consequences of a law
  • Libertarianism

“Given that minimum wages hurt the very people they are supposed to help, by restricting workers’ freedom, reducing their choices, and increasing unemployment, One must wonder why, despite decades of consensus among economists, politicians and pundits continue supporting these destructive regulations. They often do so because they want ‘send the right message’ about the ‘kind of society’ we want to live in. While this appears well-intentioned, the principle underlying such arguments is actually quite perverse: that it is better for us to feel good than to actually do good.” – Daniel Bier

“Prices are not levels that set value, they are metrics that reflect value.” – Anthony Davies

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Trading Food For Thought: February 7th Edition

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You Are Going to Die

Feedback in:

Hello Michael.

I want to first say thank you for all the great material and insight you’ve put out into the universe regarding trend following trading. I have all of your books and have listened to every single episode of Trend Following Radio. Both your books and podcasts have provided me with a plethora of information on the subject of trend following and the general psychological mindset needed in order to be a successful trader.

I also wanted to say thanks for helping me with the motivation I needed to finally leave Los Angeles for the first time since college to go out and travel, something I’ve wanted to do since I graduated. As a 28-year old guy with no children, I really had no excuse as to why I wasn’t getting out there and seeing the rest of the world. Also, your mantra of “you’re gonna die”, though simple, helped push me in the direction of taking more risks.

Right now I’m living in Bangkok. Through listening to your podcasts, I know you spend a decent amount of time over here in Southeast Asia. I was wondering if you had any public speaking engagements or live appearances over in this part of the world. I’ve read all of your material and listen to every podcast but I think it would be awesome to see you speak in person about trend following. I don’t see any future speaking engagements listed on the website but since I happen to be living over here for the moment I figured it couldn’t hurt to ask.

Anyway, thanks again for everything and much peace and prosperity my friend.

You are welcome, but no new news yet on live events. Stay tuned.

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Ep. 421: Steve Kamb Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Steve Kamb

Steve Kamb

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Today on Trend Following Radio Michael Covel speaks with Steve Kamb. Steve is the author of “Level Up Your Life: How to Unlock Adventure and Happiness by Becoming the Hero of Your Own Story” and has built a career in the niche of Nerd Fitness. He gives great insight on how to reach a specific audience and gain a loyal following. He knew he was horribly mismatched in his career and had to make a drastic change. Not wasting much time, Steve moved to Atlanta and took a job making half the money and loved it. It was at this job where he started getting into fitness and creating a website to help others. His company, Nerd Fitness, soon turned into a full time job.

Michael starts the podcast asking, “What is your definition of a nerd?” Steve quotes Wil Wheaton, “A nerd is not what you love but how you love it.” He elaborates saying that you could be a comic book nerd, medical school nerd, Star Wars nerd, etc. Steve’s outlook on fitness is about keeping a healthy lifestyle while keeping your other passions alive. It took Steve years to get his fitness regime down. He knew there had to be more people that were struggling to find the right information when it came to fitness. Steve started writing about sound strategies to build solid plans to get on the right fitness path. He uses movie and comic book references to help get his clients motivated and relate more to what he is teaching.

Steve also started looking at his life, and his clients lives as if they were on their own “hero’s journey.” He calls it the “hero’s call to action.” This journey is cyclical. You go out and come back and it is never ending. He shares stories of superhero’s like Clark Kent/Superman or Indiana Joans/archeology professor. Regular men that go out time and time again on their hero’s journey, only to return back to reality after accomplishing what they set out to do. His book, “Level Up Your Life,” is about re-framing ones life in a hero’s journey type of way. Strength training, yoga, live action role playing, etc. could all be things that motivate you to get off the couch and start your own hero’s journey.

Michael and Steve finish up sharing tips on how to travel smarter. Steve says that when it comes to jet lag, what works best for him is exercising immediately after traveling. Also, buying the cheapest ticket can ruin the first few days of a trip by adding to your jet lag.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio:

  • Traveling domestic and internationally
  • The hero’s journey
  • Marketing yourself
  • Marketing to a niche
  • What is a nerd?
  • Tailoring your fitness needs

“Surround yourself with people that are challenging you and making you better.” – Steve Kamb

“Life is meant to be lived on your own terms.” – Michael Covel

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Trading Food for Thought: February 3rd Edition

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Trend Following Good News; Bad News

Good News Bad News

Good News Bad News

[Trend Following] fills a void in a marketplace inundated with books about buying low and selling high, index investing, and all other types of fundamental analysis, but lacking any resource or, for that matter, practically any reference to what I believe is the single best strategy to consistently make money in the markets. That strategy is known as trend following. Author Van Tharp has described it succinctly:

“Let’s break down the term ‘trend following’ into its components. The first part is ‘trend.’ Every trader needs a trend to make money. If you think about it, no matter what the technique, if there is not a trend after you buy, then you will not be able to sell at higher prices … ‘following’ is the next part of the term. We use this word because trend followers always wait for the trend to shift first, then ‘follow’ it.”

Trend following trading seeks to capture the majority of a market trend, up or down, for profit. It aims for profits in all major asset classes—stocks, bonds, currencies, and commodities. Unfortunately, however simple the basic concepts about trend following are, they have been widely misunderstood by the public. My desire to correct this state of affairs is what, in part, launched my research. I wanted to be as objective as possible, so I based my writing on all available data:

• Trend followers’ month-by-month performance histories

• Trend followers’ published words and comments over the last 30 years

• News accounts of financial disasters

• News accounts of the losers in those financial disasters

• Charts of markets traded by trend followers

• Charts of markets traded by losers in the financial disasters

If I could have written books comprising only numbers, charts, and graphs of trend following performance data, I would have. However, without any explanation, few readers would have appreciated the ramifications of what the data alone showed. Therefore, my approach to writing Trend Following became similar to the one Jim Collins describes in his book Good to Great, in which a team of researchers generated questions, accumulated data in their open-ended search for answers, and then energetically debated it.

However, unlike Collins who was writing about generally well known public companies, trend followers form a sort of underground network of relatively unknown traders who, except for an occasional article, the mainstream press has virtually ignored. What I have attempted to do is lift the veil, for the first time, on who these enormously successful traders are, how they trade, and what is to be learned from their approach to trading that we might all apply to our own portfolios.

Trend Following challenges much of the conventional wisdom about successful trading and traders. To avoid the influences of conventional wisdom, I was determined to avoid being influenced by institutionalized knowledge defined by Wall Street and was adamant about fighting “flat earth” thinking. During my research, starting with an assumption and then finding data to support it was avoided. Instead, questions were asked and then, objectively, doggedly, and slowly, answers were revealed.

If there was one factor that motivated me to work in this manner, it was simple curiosity. The more I uncovered about trend followers, the more I wanted to know.

Feedback from a listener:

Hi Michael.

I’ve been listening to your awesome podcast for a few months now and it has intrigued me quite a lot. Thank you so much for putting it up out there.

I never really thought about money before. I’m one of those suckers who has been keeping the money in the bank, too skeptical of financial advisers, too afraid and ignorant of the stock markets. At some point obviously I started to realize that I needed to be in control of my savings and start planning my future. I’ve been reading a lot about the markets, but nothing makes as much sense as your words.

Despite understanding your message (at least I think I do), I actually don’t know how to exactly implement that way of thinking on a personal strategy. I am a dentist living in London, 2 small kids at home, so not a lot of time on my hands. I have been putting some of my savings on a buy and hold strategy with Vanguard equity funds. But without a doubt I am dependent on market timings and on the hope things will always “get better.” And that doesn’t seem to be very sensible.

So, I am contacting you in the hope you could help me to have some more clues on how to start on a trend following strategy that could fit my circumstances.

With great admiration,

My father is a dentist. I feel a kinship! Good news and bad news: Good? Trend following can help anyone. Bad? Need to do some prep. Here are some starters: Start Now and an Intro Video.

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Ep. 420: Inequality of Effort with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Michael Covel

Michael Covel

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Today on Trend Following Radio Michael Covel discusses three topics: the idea of two Americas, crowds, and his recent Barry Ritholtz interview. Michael starts off reading from an article titled “Two Americas.” The article focuses on people who contribute, and those who do not. People who work and those who do not. The article disagrees with the notion that all incomes should be equal. Different choices lead to different consequences. Those who choose wisely have a greater degree of success and should not have their success taken from them because others chose unwisely. The article goes on to say, “Entitlement has replaced effort in American society.” Just because you went to college doesn’t mean you are entitled to a certain level of income. On the other hand, those that do not have an education or work hard to make something happen are also not entitled to a certain level of income. Achievers do not want a pat on the head or a fake handout. Free money doesn’t work. You need passionate effort for there to be a desirable end result. If the drive is not there then the result is there.

Michael then reads from a blog post by Seth Godin titled “The crowd, your work, and a choice.” Seth dives into crowd mentality. He says that the public would rather, “Watch a movie than read a book, stand in lines for the popular attractions…likes explosions, resolved plots and ample lighting…Crowds only care about fast, easy, cheap, fun, now and simple.” Crowds demand that they are told how much they will make and in what markets. When it comes to investing and trading there are no deadlines. Trends come and go, there is no timeline.

Michael moves on to discuss his recent interview in New York with Barry Ritholtz. He talks about himself and Barry as a piece of media and how media is becoming more individualized with the help of social media. There are so many outlets to get your name out whether it be your blog, podcast, or news column. All these places are just distribution outlets. Places like twitter and Instagram give you a platform to contribute value and feedback to people. It is now easier than ever to build a one man media conglomerate.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio:

  • Two Americas
  • Crowd behavior
  • Marketing yourself

“The crowds favorite words include fast, easy, cheap, fun, now, and simple.” – Seth Godin

“One group will preach equality of outcome as a right while completely ignoring inequality of effort.” – Source Unknown

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